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John_Bitting
July 2nd, 2004, 13:24
Just wanted to know what the racers with the bigger race trucks/prerunners who you were using to build your steering boxes? I need to order one ASAP because I know they take awhile to get. Thank you in advance.

PBR
July 2nd, 2004, 15:47
jeff howe does our boxes and he is very helpful, in the past we have also used tommy lee(not the guy in the video) and he is very good as well.

Tony_Barraza
July 2nd, 2004, 16:12
Herbst and Taylor use Lee.

DMSRACE
July 2nd, 2004, 16:14
Lee is the man no ????'s asked...

Desert Specialties
July 2nd, 2004, 18:56
tom lee

dezerts10
July 2nd, 2004, 21:04
well i guess its a good ytime for a dumb one to ask what a siginaw box is. and i assume its for steering and is different from a regualar steering box. whats the difference and why is it used.

Gregg

drtdevil93
July 2nd, 2004, 21:16
its the ford 9" of steering boxes. its strong, simple, and you can find them, and more importantly parts for them, anywhere. i know its a really common conversion for the rockcrawler guys, i didnt know there were used in desert racing, but it makes sense that they are.

erik

ntsqd
July 2nd, 2004, 21:34
B4 the power racks came along it was common even to see them in 5's and buggies.

They are not all the same though, there are different sizes and I'm not up on how to tell them all apart (some are VERY close to the same physical size).

mexracer10
July 3rd, 2004, 00:51
Is it the set up where they have a steering box like on most trucks "chevys or fords" but then they have a hydrualic line going to a piston like on a slider with center mounted tie rods and they both work in sync together??? I never figured out why they would run a power steering box and a ram together dont they do the same thing??? some one set me streight please......

Curtis Guise
July 3rd, 2004, 10:03
that piston is hydralic assist. allot of steering setups need more help because of the design or big tires.

BSchlimme
July 3rd, 2004, 10:34
The other advantage of a ram assist with a power steering box on trucks is that it takes a significant load off the sector shaft of the box. Helps them live longer and lessens the chance for failure of that part.

Kritter
July 3rd, 2004, 11:29
that is the main advantage...take stress off the box and its components.

John_Bitting
July 3rd, 2004, 11:34
I ended up ordering a box yesterday from Tom Lee. I ordered a saginaw box with dash 6 fittings to go out to the ram. Very easy to order it was about $515. I called howe and they are $575. The ram was an additional $250. They said I should have the box in 6 to 8 working days. I thought it would be lot longer wait. I am gonna shop around for the ram to get the best deal since it not a custom built peice, I know Racer X, Baja Racing Products, Kartek and other shops sell them.

matt_helton
July 3rd, 2004, 13:28
so john.... do you have any idea when the truck might be close to being finished??? id really love to see it.

Wayne_Nosala
July 4th, 2004, 01:53
John,
Tommy Lee should be able to set you up with a ram also.
I ordered a custom length ram, had it in a couple of days.
He also showed me two disassembled ram units to compare,
Tommy's ram was far superior than his competitor.
Wayne

ntsqd
July 5th, 2004, 20:56
Was just going to say what Wayne said, so I'll second recommending going to Lee Mfg. for the Ram.

BTW, Tom is VERY particular that you do NOT use a forged type hose end or adapter fitting in the ram or the box. Only use the bent tube type of fittings. The forged fittings restrict the flow excessively.