another scam??

[empire231]

well most of us have read about those scams w/ ebay and other sellers, from buyers in other countries that wanna pay with cashiers checks, through assistants and all that other crap! well, I'm trying to sell my dads street bike, and it's listed in the recycler...so check out this response I get


alleged scammer:

Subject: 1995 YAMAHA VIRAGO535

Good day seller,
I'm e! nquiring about your said bike.Can you please let me know if it still for sale and also i will like to know the last offering price.
so that payment can be made out to you via .U.S.A cashier check and also make sure you get back to me with the present condition of the bike.hope to hear from you now,my regards to you and your family,
thanks.........




well, I have read about a couple of these on race dez, and here before, so I reply

me:

The lowest I'm willing to go is $2,000, and the bike is in good condition, other than the need for a new fron tire. how can shipping be arranged? I figure it would be pretty costly since you are in britain.



I figured she was in britain since her e-mail ends w/ yahoo.co.uk, so she replys


alleged scammer:

Subject: mode of payment........$8,000

THANKS FOR THE MAIL SO I WILL LIKE YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER
AND ALSO THE PAYMENT WILL BE IN SUM OF $8,000 UNITED STATE CASHIER`S CHECK WHILE YOU DEDUCT
YOUR OWN EXACT AMOUNT OF $2,000 AND SEND THE REST TO MY PERSONAL ASSISTANT VIA WESTERN
UNION MONEY TRANSFER WHO WILL BE PAYING THE SHIPPER
WHO IS GOING TO COME TO YOUR LOCATION FOR THE PICKING UP OF THE ITEM SO IF YOU
ARE OKAY WITH THIS PROCEDURE I WILL LIKE YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR CONTACT
ADDRESS OF WHERE THE CHECK WILL BE SEND TO AND ALSO YOUR PHONE NUMBER,HOPE TO
HEAR FROM YOU NOW,MY REGARDS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY,
THANKS...........




sooo, I dont know about you guys, but this shure sounds like one of those scams. what do you guys think I should reply? it's kinda fun to mess w/ them. lets here some input.

[billymanfroy]

It'd be SOOOOOOO nice to bust some of these foreign unscrupulous tards. That said, washing your hands of these scum is the easiest and safest route.

If you are serious, get the contact info of the person who is the "agent" who is supposed to pick up the bike and give it to the cops. (I have not heard of an accomplice on the ground, so this opens up a lot of options for you) DO NOT give them any personal info - they are buying a bike and the pink slip - that's all they need. Better yet, tell them you want to come to them with the bike and meet either at their house or their place of business. Make sure to bring friends and maybe even two cars worth. My guess is after they try to change the meeting place a few times and you stick to it you'll never hear from them again.

If they do agree, take pictures of whoever you meet if it's possible. (Maybe when they're checking out the bike still strapped in your truck... Good idea to get their license plate and type of car too) Then tell the overseas scum to make the cashier's check out to the agent and you'll go with them to the bank when THEY cash it. You get $2K in cash and they get $6k. Then the bike is theirs and you got what you wanted. WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT ACCEPT A CHECK!!! CASH ONLY.

Good luck and now that I think about it never mind - just ignore these thieiving jerks.

Billy

[BlueCoyote]

Yes,
Another scam. Got the identical message on a truck I am selling. Emailed him back, stating that due to the high number of fraudulant oversees buyers, thier agent can bring cash, and only then will I turn over the title & keys. No responce.

[FullsizeFun]

I got the same scam on a bike i am selling. I started asking about racing and intentions for the bike, he avoided these type of questions. I told him i wasn't going to send the bike back to europe (where it came from) they are too hard to find here.
Next time I am going to try and meet the person(s), and do something about it!