co2 nitrogen regulator question

[01_el_tiburon]

want a Cod or Nitrogen portable tank for working/ piting in the desert, need to buy em in mexico, whats the name, kind, size of the recommended regulator, guauges, hoses ,tanks,yarayarayara that i need to have ?

Apreciatte all the info

thx

el tiburon no more

[01_el_tiburon]

what about those pancake compresors ?any good for oprating an air ratchet or gun ...

thx

omar

[jeff]

Here's a relatively inexpensive self contained CO2 system:

http://performancelifts.com/images/quickairc02.jpg

The "Good Guy Price" is around $400.00 +/- USD (empty)

Aloha

[01_el_tiburon]

how are the gauges, regulators named, what pressure range, gotta buy it in mexico due to tax implications...and i need to explain to some weding shop supplier ehat im lookng for...

thx

omar

[ntsqd]

In the States all CO2 bottles are filled to the same pressure (+/- a little), can't imagine that Mexico is any different.

There are two types of CO2 regulators common up here. One has a fixed output pressure and has no gauges. The other has gauges and is adjustable. The latter is the one I would buy. Can set it for 50 psi to seat a bead (safely) or 150psi to run an air impact.

I've seen the bottle sizes referred to by their fully charged weight, i.e. a "25 pound" bottle or a "32 pound" bottle. Like other welding bottles I think they are referred to in the welding supply trade by the cubic foot capacity of the bottle.

[kats]

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[pphat]

There are some web pages that outline the build... essentially you need:

A tank for CO2 (10 pound, 25 pound, whatever), beer distributors can be a cheap source, just make sure it's got a time left on its inspection, which should be stamped on the side

and either a dedicated regulator that offers one pressure (balloon shops sell these, 150 PSI is right, if memory serves), or, better, a two gauge regulator, one reads the tank pressure, the second controls the output, and is adjustable from 0 to 160 PSI or so.

Here are two links that explain how they built their tanks:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/co2/co2-1.htm
http://www.lieblweb.com/tacoma/General/LiquidCO2/LiquidCO2.htm

Powertanks tain't cheap! http://www.powertank.com/start.htm

[01_el_tiburon]

Thanks for the info ? !!!

Exactly what i was looking, the first website has a paragragh that says: "..........CO2 is an outstanding portable air source. My used CO2 system ran me $100 (tank, regulator, and hose). I've used it on the trail, in the garage, in the house, and at the parking lot. If you decide to go with a CO2 tank, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine......"

sweet....

[Rprice]

I will ask my friend what he did. he got a Co2 tank that they use for soda machines and got a high flow reg. and hose and it works really good. aired up my tires,trailer tires, f-350 tires in the time it took all the other guys in our group to set up their compressers etc. and it was cheap. I'll ask him tommarow or if you PM me i'll give you his e-mail

[Kbach66]

In the states....it's best to look around at swapmeets. I found a used, but fully charged 15lb (I think) bottle for 10 bucks. The same day found a regulater for $5 that needed an o-ring. A couple fittings later and I have a $20 CO2 setup. Now I just need to finish my truck so that I can use it!!

[01_el_tiburon]

One last question:

? do the regulators for a cutting torch do the same job ?
if so i would only need the tank...
thx

omar

[shower]

Nope.

The fittings for the cylinder valve are different. Ocygen, Acetylene, Nitrogen, CO2 all have separate style fittings. The only shop gasses that share valve types are Nitrogen, Argon, Argon/CO2 mix, and Tri-mix. They all have the CGA 580 type valve.

[TYG]

Is it true that the CO2 is hard on (or should I say in) tires? How much more does Nitrogen cost and do you get as much use out of the same size cylinder as CO2? (CO2 liquid boils off as gas is used off the top of the cylinder, with a net result of a huge volume of gas)

[shower]

I've never heard that CO2 causes any problems with tires. Refills are about the same for nitrogen and CO2. You will get a bunch more volume from CO2 than nitrogen out of the same size cylinder. Like you said, from the boiling liquid.

[ntsqd]

CO2 can be hard on rubber if the liquid is allowed to come in contact with it as it will freeze the rubber. The way the tanks are set up this shouldn't be possible.

[DougM]

I used to use my C02 tank alot on trail runs and noticed that the tires leak more with co2 then air from a regular compresser. Dont know whay but thats what i noticed. id fill them up on Sunday and by Wed theyd be back down lost ~ + 3lbs?

weird, they dont do that when I use my compresser.