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gary
October 5th, 2003, 00:56
anyone know the sprung weight, 1 corner, up front, of a toyota?
'88 2wd, reg cab, short bed....
duffco? dan vance? cleartoy? (first 3 i can think of...)
i'd take it and get it weighed, but it's on jackstands apart at the moment...decided to go coilover while building the cage...
thanks!
curt
October 5th, 2003, 08:41
Thats a difficult question to answer since everyone's truck will be different. On our 93 std cab, short bed with the battery in back, a fuell cell centered in back, all glass except the doors and cab, and a reasonable amount of 1-3/4 tube for cage and supports is right about 775 per wheel. But our overall weight is only about 3100lbs overall though. Curt
gary
October 5th, 2003, 19:38
thanks for the reply and pm's...i realize it will vary, depending on set up/cage/suspension/etc, but i was just curious what a base number to go off of would be. i know the rear weighed in at 1300+ lbs, when i got the springs...i spose i should've done the front/whole thing to know it all...but i didnt...
thanks to all, and if anyone else has any input, please feel free...
redline
October 6th, 2003, 17:37
our 2wd toy weights 3200lbs, with me 200lbs, and 22 gallons in the cell
Bryan_D
October 6th, 2003, 21:18
You only 200 d-bo are you packin on the weight???
Jack
October 7th, 2003, 08:35
Remember to subtract the axle, tire, wheel and half the suspension from that figure or you will be over sprung.
redline
October 9th, 2003, 17:58
lil bit bryan. im trying to look buff like you. im running 700lb single rate c/o's with the small 90lb coil keepers.
curt
October 9th, 2003, 18:21
Spring rate is a magical science, you won't get the same answer twice. We're running 280's over 500's up front and it works very well in desert or shortcourse with medium sized jumps. We also use the airbumps a fair bit also. The 280 only works for about 6" of travel then the 500 kicks in for the last 8" or so. I wouldn't run a super high rate unless you're planning on dune jumping or big air contests. The best way is to find someone with a gaggle of springs and try a few to get where you're going. We've always believed softer is faster right up until you launch the whole package through the hood, the truck should ride smooth through the small to medium stuff with enough spring left to control the oh s**t bumps. It also makes a huge difference with the lower shock mounting point, to run the 700's the mounting point is probably closer inboard than we're running so needs more resistance to the leverage of the arm. The best way to do it is to ask the arm mfg what a good starting point would be for their setup.
It would be nice to get a list of everyones extra springs and build a co-op board to borrow and buy once you find a good package....Curt
WFODAN
October 9th, 2003, 18:26
Right now on my truck I'm running King ten inch 2.5 c/os with a six inch 500 on the top and a 16 inch 600 on the bottom . I also run a King 2.5 bumpstop . It is a science to get it right , and I also agree it does depend on what you want to do with the truck . Mine is a bit harsh on the little stuff , but threw the big stuff it works well .
I have always been of the belief that if the truck is too stiff , you are just going too slow . LOL!!
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