Cage/Frame

[In_the_works]

Does anyone have any pics of how they tied their cage into the frame? I'm contemplating building mine, but can seem to find any pictures or past posts regarding that aspect.

[havahockey]

See attached pic

[In_the_works]

So it is acceptable to attatch on the side of the frame? Did you then weld another plate onto the opposite side of the frame?

[singlehanded]

what type and size plate did you use to attach that bar to? was It to just one plate in the floor of the cab that was welded to the floor, and you precut a big enough in floor to weld the tube to the bottom of the single plate? Did you do anything to the stock cab mounts you can see in that picture. And if you have any better shots of the bars connecting to the v bar could you post them please. Did you use smaller tubing for the seat mounts?
thanks a lot going to be getting started on mine this week hopefully, when I get my truck back from the shop.....

[havahockey]

The back hoop in the cab that the tube is from is 3 pieces. The piece you see in the picture is about 12" long and goes from the frame, through the cab, and sticks up about 6" from the cab floor. It is then welded and plated to the main structure of the hoop. Same thing on the other side. I attached another picture of the hoop in back.

[kjmiller1]

I wouldn't trust the frame to be strong enough to butt weld a tube to it on spots that take a lot of the load, I'm far from an expert but my friend and I built a little shock hoop to hold a 2.0 in high school and the hoop actually teared the frame. Sure it was poorly designed and it was a heavy suburban, but I was amazed how weak the frame was. I think a lot of people plate the area of the frame and then weld the tube to that

[havahockey]

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There you go, the cage is tied into the frame in 6 points in the cab, and with engine cage and bedcage the whole cage is tied in to almost 20.

[motoxscott]

That cab cage isn't even really built yet in that toyota. The back hoop was just put in so that the rear of the truck could be built. Once the in-cab portion is built, everything will be reinforced and gusseted. The whole point of a cage is to distribute loads so all the pressure isnt being put on just one mount.

-Scott

[JasonHutter]

Here is ours, and it to is to the frame in many places spreading the load about the frame.

[JasonHutter]

another

[JasonHutter]

The front.

[JasonHutter]

another of the front

[singlehanded]

what about some cab cage shots where it connects to the frame and where it goes thru the floor?
thanks

[JasonHutter]

another of the rear closer up

[JasonHutter]

For some reason I don't have any on my computer, and the truck is two hours away right now. Sorry!

Jason

[Project1500]

Say your building a shock hoop and instead of welding it to the frame you make it so its bolt on. Is it better to make it bolt on or is it just a waste of time and should just weld it?

[ACID_RAIN28]

The right way is not always the easiest way. Most of the class 8's can be unbolted 100% and striped to the bare frame.

[Project1500]

They just do that though so if they bend or break something they can change it out quick and easier. Is there any pros or cons to welding a shock hoop to a frame opposed to bolting it?

[motoxscott]

Generally, it takes more time and planning to have stuff bolt on and off rather than being welded directly and not compromise strength.

-Scott

[In_the_works]

Having a modular(bolt on) cage does seem like a good idea, especially for a daily driver. At least that way if you roll, you can just swap cabs, and rebuild you cage based on your first one.

[Tony_Barraza]

Dane-

Here are a few I found on the Foutz Motorsports website. Pics are of his Stock Full F250, during it's construction.

www.foutzmotorsports.com (http://www.foutzmotorsports.com)

I hope they help.

Good luck on your project!

http://www.foutzmotorsports.com/F-250_Construction/F-250%20Part%201%20Images/Large%20F-250%20Images/Font%20Cage%20Mount.JPG

http://www.foutzmotorsports.com/F-250_Construction/F-250%20Part%202%20Images/F-250%20Large%20Images/Driver%20fender%20well,%20shock,%20cage%20mounts.J PG

http://www.foutzmotorsports.com/F-250_Construction/F-250%20Part%201%20Images/Large%20F-250%20Images/Rear%20Cage%20Mount..JPG

[In_the_works]

Thanks Tony! Just what I was looking for.

[Chris_Wilson]

Here's one off my class 8 prerunner. PM if you want to see more bolt on cage/frame connectors.