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DEZERTSUB
July 10th, 2008, 01:33
Got this the other day. I will post this because PJC hasn't yet!!!!

This 'Letter of Apology' was written by Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman, US Marine Corps, Retired:
For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On the one hand, right thinking
Americans will abhor the stupidity of the actions
while on the other hand, political glee will take
control and fashion this minor event into some
modern day massacre.I humbly offer my opinion here:I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans
took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth;
it was in the defense of Muslims ( Bosnia , Kosovo,
Gulf War 1, Kuwait , etc.)I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the
extremists came after 9/11.I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were
Islamic Arabs.I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live
in squalor under savage dictatorships.I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the
US in their religious schools, mosques, and
government-controlled media.I am sorry that Yasser Arafat was kicked out of every
Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian 'cause.'I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or
offer more than a token amount of financial help to
those same Palestinians.I am sorry that the U.S.A. has to step in and be the
biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs
while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for
all their problems.I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our
own brainwashed liberal masses do not understand
any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our
society like radical liberal professors, CNN and NY TIMES).I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the 'food for oil' money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death.I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed
thinking they will receive 72 virgins in 'paradise.'I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant
women, babies, children, the elderly and other non-
combatant civilians are legitimate targets.I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from
the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of
dissidents of their own making.I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more
Arabs than any other group.I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to
seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.I am sorry we don't drop a few dozen Daisy cutters
on Fallujah.I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient 'Holy Site.'I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into
the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely
damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church -
one of our Holy Sites.I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175,
the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders
and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc...etc!I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a
medium sized village in Africa America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those responsible because that is what we do.I am sorry that voters on the liberal left don't understand the frightening changes that are taking place in the Muslim world and what these changes will do to this world in which we live.We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That's one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don't hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like - so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we're supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated?Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of
our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujahans.If you want an apology from this American, you're going
to have a long wait! You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.Signed, Chuck Pitman
Lieutenant General, USMC

PS Pass on to your friends if you agree, and if not, I'm
sorry if I've offended you by passing along the facts.

OFFRD-JNKIE
July 10th, 2008, 07:53
Well siad the truth hurts!

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 08:58
Fake letter...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp

Sheaco
July 10th, 2008, 09:10
LMFAO, At Least the Title still works Duh! Nice work Trey.

scott-dsms
July 10th, 2008, 09:24
Fake letter...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp

Morning Trey - While the letter may not have been penned by Mr. Pitman, it still contains the truth about the enemy we face...and according to snopes Pitman became attached to the letter by forwarding it...so on some level Pitman agrees with what was written or he wouldn't have forwarded it.

I'm interested to know what you think about the content of the letter? Did you read it or just cut n paste the title into the snopes search, to stick it to DEZSUB?

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 09:39
SEMPER FI!

Well said!

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 09:41
Fake letter...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp

Time for a debate Trey.

Wanna touch on the points mentioned or is your shallow opinion that the writer was all, completely or partially wrong?

R_TAYLOR
July 10th, 2008, 09:47
I dont care who wrote it. The content is spot on.

Sheaco
July 10th, 2008, 11:56
I agree with using Daisy Cutters. I don't know if We'll ever get over those Planes entering the World Trade Center Buildings. The amount of Human loss and the feeling of total anger. I was raised with the belief that "you don't start fights, You finish them" The last time I checked Bin Laddin is still galavanting around the f'ing country side like a sceen out of "The Sounds of f'ing Music". As far as I know Bin laddin is resposible for more American Civilian Deaths then Iraq. Why Are we not spending the bulk of our time and money bringing him to justice? Wasn't the majority of 911 Scum Bags Saudi? Why aren't we more focused on that, then we were on bringing down Sadam? Did we Start the Iraq War to bring our enemies out of their Spider Holes in the Moutains surrounding Iraq and fight them on a more suitable battle Field? Did the US Goverment know it was creating a vacum in the Middle East that ended up sucking every Wack Job with a hard on to kill Americans into Iraq? Why have I not been able to see Bin Laddin getting his eye lids ripped off with a pair of Visegrips yet? Why are there record Opium crops for Our Enemies in Afganistan? Do you think that Money is directly used to kill American Soilders? Do you think that there should be a a sequiel to Nagasaki/Hiroshima? I'm not old enough to be retired and I've never been in the Military, but these are my thoughts. my two cents.

fngzippy
July 10th, 2008, 18:06
WHAT A GREAT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It gave me goose bumps. I don't care who wrote it. The point is someone DID!!!!! I feel the same way. I feel the backbone of America is getting weak with these wishy washy knuckle heads who feel high with the taste of revenge and stature for a moment till they realize that there are some unpleasant things that need to be done by very dedicated, underappreciated people to ensure the ultimate freedom for the wishy washies to complain about everything while sipping their Latte's, collecting unemployment whinning about the woe's of the world they live in. Well BOOO HOOO. Grow a FREAKIN' SPINE OR GET READY TO ELECT SOMEONE WHO WON'T EVEN WEAR AN AMERICAN FLAG PIN OR PUT HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART TO "PLEDGE ALLEGENCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA". Doesn't matter what your religion. If you want to be The President of the United States, Then acknowledge the flag of the country you are saying you want to RUN!!!
My Heart, Tears, Love and Strength to all that serve in the Military to protect our ultimately free lifestyles.

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 18:08
Time for a debate Trey.

Wanna touch on the points mentioned or is your shallow opinion that the writer was all, completely or partially wrong?

Trey, where are you?

Tons of talking points in that first post!

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 20:08
Trey, where are you?

Tons of talking points in that first post!

Really? Didn't you get the memo that it was a fake?

Check out the original and get back to me....

Nice to see you care so much.

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 20:48
Really? Didn't you get the memo that it was a fake?


Got the Snopes 411. Still good talking points.

Anti-up biatch! Let's debate.

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 21:25
Got the Snopes 411. Still good talking points.

Anti-up biatch! Let's debate.

The day you actually debate is the day when the earth flips it's axis.

But just for fun make your presentation. This should be good...not.

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 21:40
The day you actually debate is the day when the earth flips it's axis.

But just for fun make your presentation. This should be good...not.

Hey, I agree with every point and I know you likely oppose every point.

Come on Trey, step up.

You start for a change. Pick the first point of your choosing in the original post and let's discuss.

What's wrong? Are you afraid?

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 22:09
Hey, I agree with every point and I know you likely oppose every point.

Come on Trey, step up.

You start for a change. Pick the first point of your choosing in the original post and let's discuss.

What's wrong? Are you afraid?

I haven't got a "double dare you" from you yet. This is so freaking funny I can't stop laughing.

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 22:26
I haven't got a "double dare you" from you yet. This is so freaking funny I can't stop laughing.

Come on Trey, you always whine that I can't or won't debate. Now is your chance to try. Pick one point from the initial post?

Can you do that, or will you just continue to run from the opportunity?

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 22:33
Come on Trey, you always whine that I can't or won't debate. Now is your chance to try. Pick one point from the initial post?

Can you do that, or will you just continue to run from the opportunity?

Still no "double dare you"? You disappoint me. I thought you cared. I tossed the gantlet you run with it.

Ziggy
July 10th, 2008, 22:39
Still no "double dare you"? You disappoint me. I thought you cared. I tossed the gantlet you run with it.

C'mon Trey.He opened the door.We have our own thread now.Ante up 'cause heres your chance.

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 22:43
Still no "double dare you"? You disappoint me. I thought you cared. I tossed the gantlet [illiterate] you run with it.

Let me repeat for you - I agree with original post and, I think you do not.

Let's discuss.

Or do you agree with all those points too?

TreyP
July 10th, 2008, 22:52
First Pat, I want one question answered that you seem to always sidestep.

What is your Military experiance?

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 22:56
First Pat, I want one question answered that you seem to always sidestep.

What is your Military experiance?[illiterate]

Side stepped? Why are you lying now?

Trey, you nor anyone else has ever asked me this on this forum.

But I'll oblige. The answer is "none". Now why does this matter? Are you going to use my response to avoid a debate on the points mentioned in the original post?

Sheaco
July 10th, 2008, 23:05
I agree with PJC on this one. What does service have to do with this?

Our V.P. is the King of Differments, most be nice.

dan200
July 10th, 2008, 23:06
Still no "double dare you"? You disappoint me. I thought you cared. I tossed the gantlet you run with it.

Sorry, I had to throw this in here.
http://www.videosift.com/video/I-Triple-Dog-Dare-Ya

pjc
July 10th, 2008, 23:24
http://www.baja.net/forums/images/smilies_2/atomicbombps3.gif

Sheaco
July 10th, 2008, 23:26
OOOHHH.........AAAAAAAHHHHHH the pretty lights

Vtr_Racing
July 11th, 2008, 00:16
We have our own thread now.
I didnt know it was a team sport?

Ziggy
July 11th, 2008, 09:21
I didnt know it was a team sport?

It is now.It will be more fun when we have to switch teams.:D:D