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dan200
June 19th, 2008, 11:41
This is an interesting story. The legal side of actions by our government always makes me curious. When the people who run our country, make our laws and basically rule our lives have hidden agendas it fascinates me that they are above law and/or are not held liable for their action or inactions. If a special interest group uses their dollars to fund a political cause so they can capitalize on it later and that cause is proven to be a falsehood are they (or the politician in their pocket) liable? I think they should be. If it is a national case or just a local one makes no difference. If this ever gets to court it would create a interesting legal precedent that could help reduce the dishonesty in politics. I am sure this will create some interesting debate here...

The founder of the Weather Channel wants to sue Al Gore for fraud, hoping a legal debate will settle the global-warming debate once and for all.

John Coleman, who founded the cable network in 1982, suggests suing for fraud proponents of global warming, including Al Gore, and companies that sell carbon credits.

"Is he committing financial fraud? That is the question," Coleman said.

"Since we can't get a debate, I thought perhaps if we had a legal challenge and went into a court of law, where it was our scientists and their scientists, and all the legal proceedings with the discovery and all their documents from both sides and scientific testimony from both sides, we could finally get a good solid debate on the issue," Coleman said. "I'm confident that the advocates of 'no significant effect from carbon dioxide' would win the case."


Coleman says his side of the global-warming debate is being buried in mainstream media circles.

"As you look at the atmosphere over the last 25 years, there's been perhaps a degree of warming, perhaps probably a whole lot less than that, and the last year has been so cold that that's been erased," he said.

"I think if we continue the cooling trend a couple of more years, the general public will at last begin to realize that they've been scammed on this global-warming thing."


Coleman spoke to FOXNews.com after his appearance last week at the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change in New York, where he called global warming a scam and lambasted the cable network he helped create.

"You want to tune to the Weather Channel and have them tell you how to live your life?" Coleman said. "Come on."

He laments the network's decision to focus on traffic and lifestyle reports over the weather.

"It's very clear that they don't realize that weather is the most significant impact in every human being's daily life, and good, solid, up-to-the-minute weather information and meaningful forecasts presented in such a way that people find them understandable and enjoyable can have a significant impact," he said.

"The more you cloud that up with other baloney, the weaker the product," he said.

Coleman has long been a skeptic of global warming, and carbon dioxide is the linchpin to his argument.

"Does carbon dioxide cause a warming of the atmosphere? The proponents of global warming pin their whole piece on that," he said.

The compound carbon dioxide makes up only 38 out of every 100,000 particles in the atmosphere, he said.

"That's about twice as what there were in the atmosphere in the time we started burning fossil fuels, so it's gone up, but it's still a tiny compound," Coleman said. "So how can that tiny trace compound have such a significant effect on temperature?

"My position is it can't," he continued. "It doesn't, and the whole case for global warming is based on a fallacy."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337710,00.html

Here is a video where lawyers debate if he has a case or not.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbdyRUYgU0M&eurl=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/sue-al-gore-for-fraud-12/191495415

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JB760
June 19th, 2008, 11:56
Al Gore is full of crap!!

bajafox
June 19th, 2008, 12:27
I like John Coleman now, but I still can't stand the way he says his U's

K UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SI!

baja619
June 19th, 2008, 15:02
I like John Coleman now, but I still can't stand the way he says his U's

K UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SI!


Holy crap I thought ol Coleman was near mentally challenged by watching his weather forecast. I guess it was his character. Impressive that he is spear heading this legal confrontation.

Prerunin554
June 19th, 2008, 15:09
old people are funny. I love watching them on TV, they complain soooooo much. Between the fact that this guy is going insane, and Andy Rooney counts chips and complains, I completely forget to pay attention to what is happening in the world!

fishd00d
June 19th, 2008, 15:11
I have played poker with John Coleman a few times before. He plays at Oceans 11 all the time in their bigger tourneys. Its funny cause the first thing that everyone at the table says when he sits down is "whats the weather gona be like tomorrow" lol. Hes actually a really nice guy in person also!

XTEENA
June 19th, 2008, 15:26
Al Gore = MANBEARPIG

Google it or watch the south park episode!! Freaking classic!!

partybarge_pilot
June 19th, 2008, 15:34
Holy crap I thought ol Coleman was near mentally challenged by watching his weather forecast. I guess it was his character. Impressive that he is spear heading this legal confrontation.


I thought the same thing!

bajafox
June 19th, 2008, 15:37
Holy crap I thought ol Coleman was near mentally challenged by watching his weather forecast. I guess it was his character. Impressive that he is spear heading this legal confrontation.

I thought the same thing!

Same here, only times I see him is when my fiance puts on that news channel, he seemed mentally challenged to me too the few times I've seen him

I get all my weather forecasts from Chrissy Russo on Fox 6 in the morning:D

fishd00d
June 19th, 2008, 16:01
I guess skills reading the weather help in reading people in poker? lol Hes actually pretty good.

200MPHTape
June 19th, 2008, 16:27
I used to change away from him when he came on because I thought he was a kook, man was I wrong! I will make sure I stay tuned!
Go get um John!

TNT race photo
June 19th, 2008, 22:55
Coleman vs gore in a battle of weather wits, coleman wins hand down.......and the breeeezz .

dr shaw6
June 19th, 2008, 23:09
I have played poker with John Coleman a few times before. He plays at Oceans 11 all the time in their bigger tourneys. Its funny cause the first thing that everyone at the table says when he sits down is "whats the weather gona be like tomorrow" lol. Hes actually a really nice guy in person also!

LOL! Me too! I played with him at Sycuan a few times. Hes not a bad player either.

200MPHTape
June 20th, 2008, 00:28
Its a link from the Fox page Dan posted, long read and in .PDF!
http://media.kusi.clickability.com/documents/Comments+on+Global+Warming1.pdf

scary fast hummer
June 20th, 2008, 04:00
I get all my weather forecasts from Chrissy Russo on Fox 6 in the morning:D

Here is an interesting side note; did you know that by US law, it is illegal for me, as an employer, to ask you your political affiliation during an interview?

It is not, however, illegal, immoral or, a breach of your human rights to ask you where you get your news from. I can tell a lot about you depending on wether your answer is Fox, CNN, BBC, AL Jezeera, MTV...

Just a thought for the next time your sitting in an interview or giving one.

BTW, does Chrissy sign off with, "Keep it classy, San Diego!"???

dr shaw6
June 20th, 2008, 09:19
"F$#k off San Diego"- Ron Burgundy LOL!

baja619
June 20th, 2008, 13:39
Same here, only times I see him is when my fiance puts on that news channel, he seemed mentally challenged to me too the few times I've seen him

I get all my weather forecasts from Chrissy Russo on Fox 6 in the morning:D


Chrissy Russo is the only way I watch the news:)

Bri-Man
June 20th, 2008, 16:34
Holy CRAP that was long. But well worth the read. It's a shame that nobody else in the world will read it besides anti-GW people. You can't reason with those people that believe whatever the media tells them to believe. I've had better conversations with the toilet after downing a bottle of Jack Daniels and Rumplminze. All that they ever say is "Global Warming HAS to be real", well why? "Because Al Gore told me so, he made it perfectly clear when he said it, he told me that I was a gullable idiot and that he is lineing his pockets with more of Americas cash then he has stuff to spend it on."

Al Gore is building an empire around himself, and if the Earth's population is so damn stupid to believe him just because of who he is and not what his education is, then they should all just get under one big roof, drink the Kool-Aid, and lie down in bed and wait for the spaceships.:D

bajafox
June 20th, 2008, 16:45
Here is an interesting side note; did you know that by US law, it is illegal for me, as an employer, to ask you your political affiliation during an interview?

It is not, however, illegal, immoral or, a breach of your human rights to ask you where you get your news from. I can tell a lot about you depending on wether your answer is Fox, CNN, BBC, AL Jezeera, MTV...

Just a thought for the next time your sitting in an interview or giving one.

BTW, does Chrissy sign off with, "Keep it classy, San Diego!"???

Chrissy Russo is the only way I watch the news:)

Yea, I dont really pay attention to the news, but everytime Chrissy Russo is on, I'm watching:D

So I guess in my case, the only thing you can tell about me by watching Fox is because of Chrissy, and that's about it:)

(Every morning I read 10news.com, CNN.com and USA today on my phone, dont really know what that says about me)

dan200
June 20th, 2008, 17:23
Holy CRAP that was long. But well worth the read. It's a shame that nobody else in the world will read it besides anti-GW people. You can't reason with those people that believe whatever the media tells them to believe. I've had better conversations with the toilet after downing a bottle of Jack Daniels and Rumplminze. All that they ever say is "Global Warming HAS to be real", well why? "Because Al Gore told me so, he made it perfectly clear when he said it, he told me that I was a gullable idiot and that he is lineing his pockets with more of Americas cash then he has stuff to spend it on."

Al Gore is building an empire around himself, and if the Earth's population is so damn stupid to believe him just because of who he is and not what his education is, then they should all just get under one big roof, drink the Kool-Aid, and lie down in bed and wait for the spaceships.:D
Somebody has to stop this guy. If it is a weather man that brings him down all the better.

Koolaid:D LOL

pjc
June 21st, 2008, 13:59
$5 a gallon gas will be their demise. It may take a few years but it will be the gun barrel they suck on.

piratelab
June 21st, 2008, 20:19
Ya look at the facts the weatherman aint no joke! man ive heard of the gov. making up all sorts of b.s. I know gov. engineers (that which i cant speak of and also personal in the military that have gone on "top secret" missions) that have worked on designing differnt aircraft that do things like interrupt various frecquencies (radio, t.v., probably this website etc.) and replace it with an "invisable signal" disguising the intruption as normal signal, and replacing it with whatever the gov. wants you to hear or see...i have been told that the gov. actually makes up "movie sets" and will make a show with look a-like actors and sets and broadcast it. What have we been told ??? oh no! scarry shizzle guys...

bajafox
July 2nd, 2008, 14:55
Chrissy Russo is the only way I watch the news:)

No more reason to watch Fox 6 (or San Diego 6 beginning August 1st)

http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=cac89877-d564-489f-ba9e-23a3406f4d07

Looks like she's going to the new Fox 5

http://innocentbystander.typepad.com/innocent_bystander/2008/06/ib-first-off-le.html

(I feel like a stalker...:D)

pdailey
July 2nd, 2008, 15:02
I like John Coleman now, but I still can't stand the way he says his U's

K UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SI!

"Chance of rain today and a slight BREEEEEEEEEEEEZE"

ErikShallbetter
July 2nd, 2008, 15:57
Al Gore = MANBEARPIG

Google it or watch the south park episode!! Freaking classic!!

He's half man, half bearpig! NOOO, he's half manbear, half pig!

LOVE IT!

Bri-Man
July 3rd, 2008, 13:12
I want to watch German news.:D:D:D:D

pdailey
July 3rd, 2008, 13:30
I want to watch German news.:D:D:D:D

WAWAWEEWA. She is smokin!!!!!

scott-dsms
July 3rd, 2008, 14:30
Coleman's license plate frame?

fishd00d
July 3rd, 2008, 15:38
If anyone wants to talk to Coleman he will be playing at Oceans 11 tomorrow at their poker tourney.