annual automotive lift inspections

[ride red]

How is it effecting you, your business and your insurance, are your lifts ansi/ ali certifiable?

[steveG]

What's an "annual automotive lift inspection"?

What kind of lift does it refer to?

[ride red]

Our garage insurance requires us to have our lifts and air compresors to have an annual inspection for maintenance and certification. The lifts or racks (10,000-12,000lb) need to have an ansi/ali product certification label on them when they are installed.
We have 55 lifts at the deaership, 38 are not ansi/ali approved. So we have no insurance on 38 lifts.

This is a standard that OSHA backs, thus leading me to wonder how many of the rdc
wrenchers are going to have a problem.

[absolutmotoxxx]

to lift up and work on vehicles in the shop...like this one :D

http://www.americasprideonline.com/pictures/misc/safety.jpg

[ride red]

pic of label

[ride red]

to lift up and work on vehicles in the shop...like this one :D

http://www.americasprideonline.com/pictures/misc/safety.jpg

that's some funny shiat

[steveG]

to lift up and work on vehicles in the shop...like this one :D

That one is certified. Right?

Our garage insurance requires us to have our lifts and air compresors to have an annual inspection for maintenance and certification. The lifts or racks (10,000-12,000lb) need to have an ansi/ali product certification label on them when they are installed.
We have 55 lifts at the deaership, 38 are not ansi/ali approved. So we have no insurance on 38 lifts.

This is a standard that OSHA backs, thus leading me to wonder how many of the rdc
wrenchers are going to have a problem.

That's what I thought you were talking about but I wanted to make sure. Our lifts do have the label like you pictured but I don't recall ever having them inspected. Our air compressor is inspected regularly, though. By the way I work at an independent 10 bay repair shop with 7 lifts.

I wonder if your inspections are county or insurance carrier specific.

[ride red]

That one is certified. Right?




I wonder if your inspections are county or insurance carrier specific.

insurance, make sure there is not a clause in the contract. I just got off the phone with our carrier who stated if the lift is not certified, no coverage. Well sir then your inspectors need to do there job seeing as you were out Feb. 13th.

This is going to be great at our managers meeting tomarrow with the owner.

www.autolift.org-- informative site



By the way I work at an independent 10 bay repair shop with 7 lifts.

I beilve the annual still applies to your shop, i have been reading up on this for the past 2 days

[steveG]

This is going to be great at our managers meeting tomarrow with the owner.

I'm sure it'll go over great with the owner. Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.

[Random Thoughts Racing]

I chatted with the technician who came out to check the lifts and retorque the bolts the last time he was out. He said that there is an average of 1.5 deaths per month associated with lift accidents. I dont see the insurance bills but I can imagine the cost of a claim is substantial.

[johnowhite]

No insurance on a lift..isn't that a problem waiting to happen? (In a commercial setting)

I'm not being a wiseguy...If you feel that you need to sell a lift, or two I'd be interested in buying a two post and/or four post for my private garage. PM me.

John

[johnowhite]

Second thought, maybe too obvious, I'd contact the manufacturer (or possibly a specialty vendor who the manufacturuer, or inspector, might know about) and see what it would take to bring them into compliance. (Sometimes it cannot be done.)

John

[ride red]

No insurance on a lift..isn't that a problem waiting to happen? (In a commercial setting)



I'm not being a wiseguy...If you feel that you need to sell a lift, or two I'd be interested in buying a two post and/or four post for my private garage. PM me.

John

Unfortunatley all the lifts that are effected are going to be going south of the border,
i would like to re-coup some $$$$ but i do not want the liability.

[ride red]

Second thought, maybe too obvious, I'd contact the manufacturer (or possibly a specialty vendor who the manufacturuer, or inspector, might know about) and see what it would take to bring them into compliance. (Sometimes it cannot be done.)

John

Everybody that i have talked to or had out to bid the new racks all say the same thing.
They have to have an ALI/ASNI/ETL sticker on them BEFORE they are installed.

[ride red]

I'm sure it'll go over great with the owner. Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I'll look into it.

The managers meeting went great, the i spoke up about the lifts, that went over well.
The owner understands now that i have sat down and explained everything and basically said it needs to be done, more to come.

[ride red]

just a little update 18 new certified rotary lifts delivered today 26 weill be delivered tomorrow

[FABRICATOR]

The average age of our in-ground hoists is about 27 years old, with most over 30. Approximately 30 of them are 57,000# and perhaps a dozen 26,000#. Many have been used 24 hours a day for almost the entire time. No stickers.

Although there have been some plumbing failures...I've only seen one hoist fail in my 23 years there. The internal stop broke off and the rear column was on its way up and out. Luckily it tilted a bit and was spotted by the operator. All have hefty ratchet beams so fluid problems are pretty much a non-issue, safety wise that is. The problem nowadays is if you spring a leak in the old underground lines it takes a long time to fix and costs big bucks for upgrades which can includes replacing the hoist itself. I won't even mention the cost and hassle of soil remediation. :)

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The average age of our in-ground hoists is about 27 years old, with most over 30. Approximately 30 of them are 57,000# and perhaps a dozen 26,000#. Many have been used 24 hours a day for almost the entire time.No Stickers

Unfortunatley i need stickers, no stickers=liability - stickers= no liability, we employee over 50 techs and it will only take one to screw the business especially when some of these guys are only getting 10 to 20 hours a week. quite a chunk of change to spend but it was needed and some of the techs are happy that they are getting new racks to work on

[steveG]

Unfortunatley i need stickers, no stickers=liability - stickers= no liability, we employee over 50 techs and it will only take one to screw the business especially when some of these guys are only getting 10 to 20 hours a week

Yikes. Slow times... I guess it's a good time to be replacing lifts because they're not in use, but a bad time to be replacing lifts because you still have to pay for them!

[ride red]

Yikes. Slow times... I guess it's a good time to be replacing lifts because they're not in use, but a bad time to be replacing lifts because you still have to pay for them!


Very very true, one good thing is our sales dept is holding its own with the economy,
I had planned on the big hit so was setting alot of money aside, work a killer deal with the installer and manufacture, within the next 5 years we have to rebuild a larger dealership so i will be keeping them close to the process