Blitzkrieg money pit

[Cheyne]

I have never really posted on this site just browsed but here is a ranger i've been buildin for the past few years

-Newline front kingpin beams with Blitzkreig cnc spindals 2.5 snouts and desert -specialty hubs
-Blitzkreig full front to back tubework
-Blitz 4 link
-blitz 3.5 custom housing with desert specialty hubs strange nodular third member 40 spline spool
-Goodyear GSA race tires
-KMC beadlocks
-ford racing 351w
-custom 50-60 gallon fuel cell
-Beard ULtra 2's
-Blitz light rack
-2xfluidyne enduro coolers

In December its goin into BLitzkreig once again to get it ready for plumbing cnc pedal assembly will be installed finish tab work on the rear end and some other minor stuff...when it leaves it'll be rolling with all calipers, hubs, rearend, suspension prepped and ready to go...then in spring it'll be off to get wired and plumbed and prepped

if any shop see's this or wants to take on this project for the finish work PM i'm still lookin at a few different shops

[Cheyne]

few more

[Cheyne]

few old pics of before build and new picx

[bcampbell04]

don't forget the Blitz sway bar....welcome to RDC. watched this build on desertrides for a long time.

[E&S Racing]

I love this truck. I would love to have it as a prerunner too. I thought you were selling it a while back, change of mind? Good luck with the rest of the build

[Cheyne]

not motivated enough to sell it..... in the long run i'd be better off but i cant seem to let it go haha....slow and steady wins the race

[McClintock]

Keep working at it Cheyne, it will be done soon enough.

[Cheyne]

truck updates....

Truck will go off to MME aluminum fabrication for marty to go to town with it....I anticipate nothing but top notch work from him...truck will be getting a dash center console and possibly rear aluminum work done (might wait till after testing for that....trucks scheduled to go there in November

Dash will be similar to John Bittings shown below

Then in December It'll go back to BLitzkreig to get his CnC spindals put on prep and shank all the suspension and bolts, finish tabbing the rear housing and get it pretty much ready for wiring and plumbing.....when it rolls all it should be rolling stearing.... all hubs greased and bolted on properly rearend complete and ready to go with everything installe and CNC brake pedals installed

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/trestles126/dashblack.jpg

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[Fourstroker]

Good call on MME. Marty will do you right. Satisfied customer. Truck looks great!

[Cheyne]

Scott at Camburg just hooked me up with some goodies for my dash

-Vertex 3200 race radio
-Avcomm AR500 4 person intercom
-7 inch Lorance GPS

[Cheyne]

Does anyone know of a decent priced header guy in the oc area I have quite a bit of material to build them just need some built would like them done before I take it to MME plan on getting my cell finished by Harmon as well soon

[Cheyne]

finally got ahold of a old friend of mine to do my headers....custom equal length ouside the frame rail....for a decent price....goin into his shop 0ct 30th then to MME november 20th, then to blitz in december

[Iggle]

finally got ahold of a old friend of mine to do my headers....custom equal length ouside the frame rail....for a decent price....goin into his shop 0ct 30th then to MME november 20th, then to blitz in december

Al's Headers is right down the street from Blitzkrieg and he does good work and he's reasonable. He charges $125 per tube so it's $1000 for a V8. Give him a call and tell him Nacho sent you 714-273-8277

[Ghost Ranger 77]

That dash looks awesome.

[Cheyne]

truck went in for all the aluminum work today should come out really nice Marty at MME is doing it and does amazing work hes a artist

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[CMazzulla]

That really is one of the nicest rangers. Super clean!

[klaus]

Very nice built. Can't wait to see it finished and in action.
Can you post some pictures of the work done in the front under the hood.

[Peaches]

nice can't wait to see final painted pics and it in the desert.

[DezertTV]

Great truck and one of my favorite Rangers! Blitz does amazing work!

[Cheyne]

Thanx for tha compliments Marty has my truck right now and is doing my dash by far the best money spent he does quality work and great to deal with in the process of buying the lady a ring so once again the work will slow down in pace yet again but will still go into blitz to try to get it closer for wiring and plumbing klaus ill upload some pics tonight of the front in my opinion it could have been executed better but I'm a perfectioneas here's one cruddy cell pic of the dash started

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/trestles126/qw.jpg

[Cheyne]

getting there marty said it'd be done by tommorrow lots of finish work and full center consol and glove box to come

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[absolutmotoxxx]

Everything looks really really awesome and clean. Good work!!!

[CrownRanger]

super clean dash cheyne.. and congrats on the next step with the lady.. its the best :)

[CEORanger]

nice looking dash. my favorite ranger by far.

[Cheyne]

thanks for the compliments guys

what are all you guys running or the guys that have it running what system and set up....

simplist set up preferred goin in my ranger

[Cheyne]

the post above was about vintage air need opinions

[charlie_brown]

truck and dash look great. after all the work are you going to get it dirty?

i am running the "hot rod" air system with the 3 out put from the unit. had to split one of them to make 4 vents. last i check the main difference was that hot rod used vacuum lines to control the vent selection. there was a few other options ether way.

main thing is get the biggest unit that will fit and get the biggest condenser (regardless what they say). try to use the older refig. stuff because from i have been told (disclaimer "told") it blows colder and it does not generate as much heat at the condenser.

brace the **** out of the fan unit where it is mounted to the evaporator or it will crack the plastic case.

get the round vents. i got the other ones and they were a pain to work with.

Now, what type of knob are you going to use for the glove box?

[Peaches]

very nice dash...im liking it alot....are you going to paint it...or leave it just bare metal with a clear coat on the dash....look nice either way..

[Cheyne]

either paint it matt black or get it upoulstered

[Cheyne]

done

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[charlie_brown]

"done"

yea right. they are never done.

[Cheyne]

haha ya i meant with the small dash project the truck has so much more work its not even funny. i was just drinkin a beer lookin at it shakin my head about 20 mins ago its part round up time got about 15k in parts i need to start aquiring

[Hemp]

looking good cheyne

[Dezertpilot]

Soooooo nice! Since you are doing this right and taking your time the truck will be perfect when finished. Cant wait to see the truck in the dirt:)

[Cheyne]

it'll never be done haha....i love the truck everything but the front tubework.....so in my weird way of thinking I think the only way to fix that is to hack the hole front off sell the newline and have blitz do a similar centerlink a arm set up like Juan B's blazer haha....but thats a pipe dream and something that may come way down the road after the things running for now i'll stick with the beam setup.

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[charlie_brown]

"Soooooo nice! Since you are doing this right and taking your time the truck will be perfect when finished."

that’s never true either. when its done you will say "i could of" or "the next time".

[Cheyne]

Harmin fuel cell 1300
Built c6 2-3k
Shocks 4k
Bump stops 350
Cnc pedal assembly 250
Gauges 200
Shifter 250
Lights 1800
Howe ram assist and stearing 2000


Total 12650

do you guys think thats a fair guess

[therail]

Maybe more on shocks, as you will probably end up trying different spring rates and such.

[DezertTV]

LOL "They are never done"

Great build!!

[Cheyne]

it was done about 3 years ago when i bought it my 4th ranger project i've had.....and now look at it "its never done" is so true its not even funny. but the progress is fun to watch and one day it'll be bitchen full interior powdercoat and clean.till then let the money spending continue

[Bryan_D]

Funny I never put the two trucks together. I remember that pic because I always love a ranger on ar-23s. Wow that was old school right there, and still a nice truck.

[Cheyne]

can you buy a bypass form fox without the tubes on it? so i can have the suspension cycled then the tubes placed as needed? Going with a 3.0 coilover upfront with a 2.5 coilover and 3.5 bypass in the rear

[John_Bitting]

can you buy a bypass form fox without the tubes on it? so i can have the suspension cycled then the tubes placed as needed? Going with a 3.0 coilover upfront with a 2.5 coilover and 3.5 bypass in the rear

They will build you whatever you draw up. Standard left and right with piggyback resi's will work for the rear.

[CEORanger]

it was done about 3 years ago when i bought it my 4th ranger project i've had.....and now look at it "its never done" is so true its not even funny. but the progress is fun to watch and one day it'll be bitchen full interior powdercoat and clean.till then let the money spending continue

thats a sweet bed cage you had on there before.

[Cheyne]

So what do you guys think for shocks

up front I have Newlines kingpin beam kit with a 351w

3x14 5 tube bypass with a 2.5 by 12inch coilover

i'm pretty sure i could use the exisiting 14 inch coilover mount for the bypass and have blitz squeeze a 2.5 12 inch coilover off the radius arm up front instead of a single 3.0 coilover
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/trestles126/Picture532.jpg
then in the rear and dont base your opinion off money cause i dont....
a 2.5 coilover with a 3.5 5 tube bypass thats what the shock mounts are made up for....but i could always just run a 3.0 bypass but ya the 3.5 would be bitchen... my main question is it is a decently heavy ranger and would i be even able to valve the 3.5 for it or is it too much shock thats the only thing keeping me from running it the extra 700 bucks for both of them doesnt bother me

i have what you see below probably a 55-60 gallon fuel cell with a single gsa spare tire and jack and all the other goodies in the rear so it might be pretty heavy

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/trestles126/Picture554-1.jpg

[Cheyne]

oh ya and if anyone knows where i could get my hands on or trade my GSA's for the 37x15 gsa's let me know for now i'll rock the 35s but those 37s look bitchen

[Sites]

If you're not concerned about money, I woudl say go with the 3.5 bypasses. I just nuked my Bilstien bypasses that I've been unhappily running for the past 4 years and have a set of Fox 4 tube 3.5 bypasses being built. I would say that my truck will be a bit heavier than yours, but if you plan on running 37s, large fuel tank, tools, etc., it should be pretty close.

I hear people use the term "too much shock", but I'm not exactly sure what that means, or if they even know, lol. A bigger shock will typically flow more fluid, hold more fluid, which should ultimately allow them to run cooler and have more precise control over the valving. By this I mean that regardless of the valving, at some point the amount of fluid that the piston can flow will become the bottleneck.

This is what I encountered with my Bilstein 9100 "race" (and I use the term "race" loosely) bypasses. With my truck being a big fat *****, coupled with the fact that Bilstein's 2.5 9100 "race" shocks actually used a 2" piston and a .5" sleeve (dont get me started), we could never manage to get the valving setup without it being too harsh, too soft, overheating the shocks, or all of the above. This is why I ended up ditching them and going with the 3.5 Foxes, which I'm hoping to have soon.

[Cheyne]

hey sites post pics when you get them like to see how they turned out

[Porboy]

These were posted in the classifieds. Hope it helps.
http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=2&md=second&id=3161

[Porboy]

Sorry, didn't see that you needed 15's.

[xjobforacowboyx]

I didn't see it asked in here yet, but what are you doing for a motor?

-Keith

[StGeorge-Motorsports.com]

keep up the work it is coming together very nice. Nice job!

[CaptinCrash]

hes running a 351w

[Cheyne]

ya ford motorsports 351w with roller rockers, aluminum heads, eldlebrock intake manifold, cam blah blah blah should push around 400hp on pump
the crossmembers been all boxed in and plated and its ready to drop in just hate pushin it around with the motor in it haha

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[fftront]

i wanna drop a V8 in my ranger! thats pretty cool!!

[Cheyne]

if i could do it again i would've kept the 4.0 in it

[fftront]

if i could do it again i would've kept the 4.0 in it

why is that?

[Cheyne]

2 much money and work......way to much hopefully it'll be worth it in the end

[jeff]

For Sale? http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=2&md=second&id=7318

Aloha

[Sites]

Not that its any of my business as to why you're selling your truck, but if the "(need to buy a house)" in the title of your ad is really what you're selling it for, I would suggest doing a little research into the housing marketing before buying anything. With the rate at which housing sales and price are dropping, selling your truck and putting the money into a house (at the current prices) is like stuffing it into a paper bag and lighting it on fire.

[SANDlessNSeattle]

Not that its any of my business as to why you're selling your truck, but if the "(need to buy a house)" in the title of your ad is really what you're selling it for, I would suggest doing a little research into the housing marketing before buying anything. With the rate at which housing sales and price are dropping, selling your truck and putting the money into a house (at the current prices) is like stuffing it into a paper bag and lighting it on fire.



And building a Prerunner is an investment???

[Sites]

And building a Prerunner is an investment???

Care to point out where I said that building a prerunner is an investment?

My point being, buying a house right now is like going to the car dealership and paying a 20% mark-up on a new model car. Having patience will allow you to buy the same car, or a better one for much less.

[SANDlessNSeattle]

HMMM and my point would be...@40k...That it's gonna be real tuff to sell it overnight...so by time it sells....housing prices will have dropped even more...



That's all

[Sites]

The price he is selling his truck for has nothing to do with my point. Frankly, with the cost of part and labor that he has into his truck, I think $40k is pretty close to fair.

Lets say he sold the truck for $30k. If he were to turn around and put that money right into a house, at the rate in which prices are dropping, that money down would be negated by loss in market value in 6 months.

I'm just speaking from personal experience where I got out of a hobby about 6 years ago because I thought I needed to liquidate personal assets (read: race car, trailer, tow vehicle, etc.) Once I was done, I realized that I didn't really need to do it, but it was too late and the hobby that I loved to do was no longer possible.

[WannaB-class5]

Do you have any clue how a housing market actually works? Esp. in the long run, or are you just sorta watching CNN and bitching? K I am done (oh and nice truck, good luck with the sale)

[Sites]

Do you have any clue how a housing market actually works? Esp. in the long run, or are you just sorta watching CNN and bitching? K I am done (oh and nice truck, good luck with the sale)

Assuming that you're talking to me, yes, I've been paying attention to the market for the past two years -- long before it was cool to be "bitching" about the current housing situation.

I have family that have been in the construction business, both residential and commercial, for decades. So growing up, I was able to witness the highs and lows of the early 80's housing crash and the early 90's crash. Got to meet a lot of off-road racing families (Paul and Dave Simon, the Baldwins, etc.) whose roots are in construction.

So I guess my question for you is, do YOU know how the housing marketing actually works? If CNN is your only source, then I would suggest looking for a few independant sites with historical housing data and do your own analysis. I think you'll find that the situation is MUCH more f-ed up than the mainstream media is letting on.

Cheyne,

Sorry to derail your thread, but I know you've spent a long time building your Ranger and just trying to play devil's advocate :)

[Cheyne]

just weighing my options guys I still have the truck and it most likely won't sell nor would I let t go for under 40. I've just realized I make good money and all I have to show for it is a black hole of a money pit. I don't have a house in mind but would like to be prepared if something does come up I can purchase it I just don't see me getting ahead in life with a high end project like my ranger. Thanks for the input like I said I was just testing the waters. I'm known for getting wild hairs up my butt and doing things like that sorry for the scare guys

[tre5]

Wow, I always watch this thread because I like the truck. Now I come to look, hoping to see some progress pics, and end up reading about the housing market. That sucks. way to take the thread off track. There is a whatever section for that crap. Thanks.

[Nukldragger]

Wow Cheyne, much better pics than what you showed me on your phone. Looks like way too much work and money invested to give it up now.....like I said, hold on to it. If you sell it now, you'll kick yourself later.

Once you get married and buy a house, forget starting another project like that unless you hit the lotto.

Just don't paint it yellow when it's done (LOL)

[tool46n2]

very nice truck. when it comes down to it your building a truck that is one of a kind. i would be to proud of the work just to stop and sell it. once again VERY NICE TRUCK!

[Cheyne]

ordering shocks this week 3.5 bypass and 2.5 coilover per wheel fox

[baja619]

Excellent choice! that is the same configuration on this truck.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w179/fiberwerx/plaster-city_test3_smll.jpg

[Fourstroker]

Any update photos?

[Cheyne]

nothings really been done besides ordering parts
shocks
trans
cell bladder
and spindals are on my to do list

[Dezertpilot]

ordering shocks this week 3.5 bypass and 2.5 coilover per wheel fox

Smart choice! Please tell me u will be also running at least a litle bit of valving in the coilover:D

[Cheyne]

yes i will be gonna have alex the ax set them up

[Dezertpilot]

NICE! I think alot of people use the theory of just having an empty coil carrier and all the valving in the bypass which I think is OK, but the C/O will take up some of the heat off the bypass. Plus if the bypass shock blows out u can still continue on with the coilover. Those FOX 3.5's are massive:) Do they come standard with the gold valve? One last thing how many tubes?

[Cheyne]

5 tube I'm pricing the foxs in that setup or the kings in a 3.0 & 2.5s and 4.0 & 2.5s which is almost cheaper just
not sure on the clearance

[bcampbell04]

wow, 4.0 bypass and 2.5 coils in the rear....that's one big, and pricey option.

[Cheyne]

most parts from my truck have been bought below retail prices.... I will be ordering 3.5s foxs for each corner and 2.5s foxs for each corner all in black (color) oh and everything on the truck has pretty much been a big pricy option

[bcampbell04]

ya, i know the building process is not cheap by any means. i've followed your build since you've started. remember looking at it on desertrides. that's great that you've been able to get most things around or below retail. i know those kinda costs since i work in the industry. the black foxs are a great choice. it's really cool to see someone who really takes pride in their build and takes the time to do it complete.

[Horn3yHort0n]

dont do it!!

[rc-jay]

I see its Back up for SALE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!