NEW, AGM Jacking system

[desrtrat256]

All German Motorsport (AGM) has introduced our jacking system to the public. When seconds are everything in racing, imagine shaving minutes off your tire changes. This could mean the difference between wishing you were on the podium or being on the podium.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/desrtrat256/jacking.jpg

Just the basics of what it can due. Im working on more pictures and video right now. Hopefully a website should be up in a week or so. but here are the basics

System runs off the powersteering pump. 1500 psi pump will give you 7300 lbs of lifting force per jack.

We offer it in 3 different lengths.
Mid travel: 24 inches of travel. perfect for cars with low to mid travel.
Standard travel: 30 inches of travel. Used on our class 1 car for 2 yrs now.
Long Travel: 33 inches of travel. Perfect for those big travel high powered trucks.

This system is extremely light compared to the competitors. the whole system,
Jacks (2x), and Control manifold weigh in at a little over 50 lbs. Which is nothing when it save minutes on the course.

30 inch jack reaches full travel in just 7 seconds.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. This system has been race tested in our class 1 car. AGM average tire change is from 1 min 15 sec to 1 min 30 sec, from the time the vehicle stops to the time its racing again, with the driver never having to get out or even unbelt.

[Tipracer]

Have you guys had the chance to try it in deap silt? And I assume that the engine has to be on.

[DustyFilm]

If the unit fails, do you lose all of your power steering? Can it be run on a seperate (Non motor mounted) pump?

[desrtrat256]

Have you guys had the chance to try it in deap silt?

We offer 2 different size foot pads for the jacks. a 12 inch which is being ran over in Dakar and an 8 inch that we run. We have heard of teams getting themselves unstuck out of the sand in dakar with the system.

And as for failures it will not take out your powersteering. There is a main feed line to the control manifold, while under normal operation it bypasses the system. Turn the valve to activate the control manifold then another valve to pick which jack. Very simple to use aswell as small and dependable.

[ASHCRAFT]

Very Clean looking unit. I saw it at Primm earilier this month.

[dscaroni]

I got the full demo at the drawing party this weekend. Great idea and very nicely done. The most important thing is that it eliminates the need to carry a nitrogen bottle.

[Nick Sexton]

Wow i saw this system a few month ago in a Dirt Sports issue and i have to say it is a great design and super clean. any idea how much for the standard travel unit.

[desertracer]

Is this system compareable to the HOWE setup? Just curious about the differences.

[pjc]

How much does it weigh (total = 2 jacks, valves, hoses)?

How much does it cost?

Thanks

[desrtrat256]

The jacks wiegh 24 lbs each and the control manifold weighs 4.3lbs. total with hoses and everything your lookin at a little under 60lbs.

[shrek]

What is this "They call me Shrek!", stuff.

There is only one Shrek around here, pal............dont make me sick Aloha, Bitting, or Klaus on ya!!!.......haha

Shrek

[desrtrat256]

What is this "They call me Shrek!", stuff.

There is only one Shrek around here, pal............dont make me sick Aloha, Bitting, or Klaus on ya!!!.......haha

Shrek


Haha. tahts why its not my name cause you got to it first. Ive been called that for the last 4 yrs of my life. But i guess you are the one and only.

[Zambo]

How much lighter is your wallet going to be after buying one of these?

Sorry if I missed it, but what is the weight rating. Our truck weighs 6000lbs.

[therail]

^^^^^7300 pounds @ 1500 psi.

[desrtrat256]

^^^^^7300 pounds @ 1500 psi.

Thanks, also with the 1300 psi pump the jacks with lift a little less at 6450 lbs. per jack.

[E&S Racing]

Maybe I missed it but I think it has been asked twice with no response, what does it cost????

[desrtrat256]

Here are a few more images to look at. the product looks identical to the solid works pictures.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/desrtrat256/passengerside.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/desrtrat256/leftlock.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/desrtrat256/jackassembly.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/desrtrat256/lowerhousing.jpg

[desrtrat256]

Is this system compareable to the HOWE setup? Just curious about the differences.


AGM System
Purpose built system
Ready to operate at any time
100% mechanically operated (no electrical failures)
3 different lengths of travel
2" 4130 piston rod
control manifold wiegh 4.3 lbs
length 3.95" width 2.75" overall height 6.15

Howe system
18" of travel
1 1 /4 piston rod
get out install foot, operate jack, take off foot
control manifold weighs 24lbs
length 7.5" width8.75" overall height 7.25"




I by no means am talking bad about the howe system, it works well. In just the facts alone show that the AGM system is a very well thought out and built system.

[hammer down racing]

Maybe the fourth time is the charm.

PRICE?

[JESSE_at_TLT]

This looks like a very slick system, but this is also a full-on advertisement which is generally frowned-upon on this forum. What's the deal?

[desrtrat256]

Maybe the fourth time is the charm.

PRICE?


PM sent

Jesse, this was not meant to be an add. I just want to help get the product out there and known. I would like to see how what the desert community thinks about the system, good or bad. If you have a questions feel free to ask. Thanks

[TJERGENSEN]

Pm Me Also With Price And Spec's For New Buck Thanks Todd

[pdailey]

PM me as well with details for our Class 1 car. Thanks.

[desrtrat256]

PM's sent.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Jesse, this was not meant to be an add. I just want to help get the product out there and known. I would like to see how what the desert community thinks about the system, good or bad. If you have a questions feel free to ask. Thanks
I understand, and I don't mean to play the hall-monitor. Commercial posts are just gerenrally limited to the Industry News (http://race-dezert.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7) section. Looks like a great product.

[Triaged]

I understand, and I don't mean to play the hall-monitor. Commercial posts are just gerenrally limited to the Industry News (http://race-dezert.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7) section. Looks like a great product.Maybe you could forgive them if they send the solid models to you for the cad-library? :cool: Don't need all the parts...just the ones on the outside to figure mounting and routing.

[NoBrakes Drake]

Can you show us a photo of the jack retracted? I'm interested in how the foot clears rocks, etc., when skidding over something at speed. Thanks.

[desrtrat256]

The foot of the jack sucks up tight to the skid pan. There is a 60 lbs spring with a detent system that holds the ram up while moving. On our class 1 car we run a little triangle peice in front for deflection purposes. We have never had an issue with the jack getting pulled down by rocks, bushes, etc. There are 2 led's in the dash with micro swiches on the ram. If the foot is down teh light is on.

[desrtrat256]

With continued success and alot of new developement in our jacking system I figured I would bump it to the top of the forums. We also have a lot of new product we are offering to the public as well. more pics and info to come on that. If you have any questions please contact us at jacks@allgermanmotorsports.com.

[Bajabnd]

Why don't you just post the video of it working on Martins car...

[BGRANT]

Do you still carry a standatd jack as a back up?

[TallKewl7]

OK, why is the price of this thing such a state secret? I know PM's have been sent to those that asked. But, I even went on the website looking for a price and can't find the product on there at all.

Marshall

[desrtrat256]

OK, why is the price of this thing such a state secret? I know PM's have been sent to those that asked. But, I even went on the website looking for a price and can't find the product on there at all.

Marshall


Sorry The website is still under constuction, weve extremy busy lately. So weve been slacking on getting it up and running. As for video Im still trying to get it from the camera guy. For pricing you can call ORW or Kartek and they should have it handy.

[Bajabnd]

Do you want me to post a link of it working??

[desrtrat256]

That would be a huge help right now! Thanks

[Bajabnd]

Here is the link, large 118 meg file. Shows the jack working and has Martin explaning the technical aspects of the system.



http://www.competitionhill.com/AGM/video/jtirechange9h.wmv

[PGMazzio]

Please PM price for class 1

Thanks - Phil

[Big Oly TT]

OK, why is the price of this thing such a state secret? I know PM's have been sent to those that asked. But, I even went on the website looking for a price and can't find the product on there at all.

Marshall ORW said $7000.

[TallKewl7]

Thanks. (a bit out of my price league for my little play Baja Bug, but I was curious)

You know, those guys named "Marshall" need to stick together! LOL

Marshall

[desrtrat256]

ORW said $7000.

Overview
- the jack has 30 inches of travel
- the jack reaches full travel in 7 seconds
- Using a 1350 psi power steering pump each jack can lift 6570 lbs
- Using a 1500 psi power steering pump each jack can lift 7300 lbs
- You have your choice of two lifting pads- the 8 inch Baja pad or
the 12 inch Dakar pad.
- The Control Manifold is 100% mechanical(less chance of failure)
- The Manifold's fully assembled weight is under 4.5lbs
Materials
- The cap, piston, lower housing, foot and pad are all billet 6061
aluminum, and have been anodized for corrosion resistance.
- The jack body is 6061 aluminum, and has been hard anodized to extend
the life of the part.
- The piston rod is a 4130 center less ground shaft, 2 inches in
diameter.
- The manifold is billet 6061 aluminum.
Additional features
- There is a micro-switch mounted in the lower housing, that you
wire into a light on the dash, which will illuminate when the jack is
not in the fully retracted position.
- There are three detents mounted in the lower housing that act as a
mechanical stop. Preventing the jack from dropping down when not in
use.(This system is a backup to the hydraulic system)
- The jack pad can pivot up to 20% from center in any direction, to
allow the jack to adapt to uneven surfaces.
- There is a 60 lb spring mounted inside the jack foot. When the jack
is fully retracted, the jack pad will contact the floor of the
vehicle and engage this spring. This spring holds the pad tight to
the floor of the vehicle, preventing rock or dirt from getting
in between.
We also offer a 24 inch travel and 33 inch travel jack.

Retail pricing is as follows, discounts are at the discretion of the distributor:
CONTROL MANIFOLD(Includes the manifold, all fittings and hardware)1395.00 ea.

JACK ASSEMBLY(Includes the Jack, all fittings, micro-switch, pad of your choice- 8 in or 12 in and mounting hardware)1995.00 ea.

HYDRAULIC LINE KIT(Includes 30 ft of -4AN hydraulic hose, all fittings needed to hook manifold up to jacks) 165.00

ASSEMBLY WRENCHES(2 inch and 2 3/4 inch wrenches used to install the jack foot/pad and to break down the jack for servicing)
89.00 ea.

UPPER CHASSIS MOUNT(4130 Upper chassis mount slides directly over top of jack making it easy to fix to chassis. The mount is made thick so that each team can modify it as they see fit) 49.00 ea.

[Big Oly TT]

Thanks. (a bit out of my price league for my little play Baja Bug, but I was curious)

You know, those guys named "Marshall" need to stick together! LOL

Marshall

That's right, my brother.;) Yo! Marshall! Take a look at the "Big Oly" Trophy Truck thread, in the shop, show and tell section. Let me know what ya think.

[Mitosinka Motorsports]

Very Nice piece..Looking into it for our new Class 1.

Can you p.m. me your phone number?

[desrtrat256]

The man you need to get in touch with is Bryan at AGM and he can be reached at
760-738-4626 ext 210 or by name.

[Mitosinka Motorsports]

Thanks. Not to change the topic but how is the 383b working out for you guys?

[desrtrat256]

So far its been great. So far we are really happy with the tranny and the program Xtrac runs.

[Bajabnd]

How have the jacks been selling?

Good luck at Laughlin...

[desrtrat256]

They have been doing really well, Getting shipped all over the place. Thanks Should have a good run in laughlin. really happy with the car and set up.

[desrtrat256]

Displays just went in this morning up at Kartek and already in the San Diego ORW. soo to be in all of the ORW stores. Go check them out.

[desrtrat256]

Finally a video of our jacking system. check it out!

YouTube - AGM Part 7 -- OnBoard Jacking Demo

[E&S Racing]

Now that is cool. Looks good guys...

[Horn3yHort0n]

saw the agm car use this at parker in the pits it looked very useful

[desrtrat256]

Ya we had 1 flat on course right at the start then Martin was Showing it off a little at the finish line. It really is quite a handy item

[partybarge_pilot]

Finally a video of our jacking system. check it out!



Don't lie, if you were really in a hurry, you would have left that flat behind.......

[desrtrat256]

Our car will be up on the jack all weekend at the ORBA show in Del Mar. It will be in the ORW booth

[Bajabnd]

How are they selling?