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Jerry Zaiden
July 5th, 2007, 19:27
Here is a new truck being built by Ross Savage using our Camburg Suspension parts.

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0605.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0639.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0652.jpg http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0643.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Ranger/Ross%20Beams%20Install/IMG_0321.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0634.jpg

E&S Racing
July 5th, 2007, 20:05
Very nice Jerry

DSRacing
July 6th, 2007, 09:28
Jerry,

This truck's front suspension is using your new I-beams correct?
Wasn't sure from the angle of the photos.

FABRICATOR
July 6th, 2007, 11:55
Looking good Jerry. And without superfluous bling.

jason@gmachine
July 6th, 2007, 12:37
looks great, did you guys get the bare housing from DT then weld on your link mounts?

the quality is top notch as always.

Jason

Jerry Zaiden
July 6th, 2007, 15:42
Thank you guys!

Yes the beams are our new Equal Length beam set up with custom spindles and billet hubs. I will take more pictures when he gets the steering installed.

The rear end housing is from Dirt Tech. They make us a mig welded housing and we tab it for our 3 link and set up the brake mounst and snouts. The hubs are our new design for prerunner trucks with a 2.25" bearing and a wide spread. The axles are 35 spline and we use Wilwood brake parts. I will also get more pictures of the rear end in a few weeks.

This truck will be fun to watch! It should have at least 300 RWHP (way more than my 170 :) and be running in BITD but might show up to a few local races to test it out.

Dezertpilot
July 6th, 2007, 17:43
Nice!

Jerry Zaiden
July 6th, 2007, 22:42
Jerry,

This truck's front suspension is using your new I-beams correct?
Wasn't sure from the angle of the photos.

Here is a better picture of what is going on with the spindle and beam combo... no more king pins :) and now a bunch of camber adjustment!

http://www.camburg.com/images/Ranger/New%20Ranger%20beams/Ranger%20Equal%20Length%20beams3.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Ranger/New%20Ranger%20beams/Ranger%20Equal%20Length%20beams2.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/Ranger/Ross%20Beams%20Install/IMG_0318.jpg

Complete with our hubs :)

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0617.jpg

xtt-codog
July 6th, 2007, 23:03
Very nice. Can you tell us what that setup would cost.

Darren
July 7th, 2007, 18:29
Nice work Jerry.

matt_helton
July 7th, 2007, 22:41
that front shock angle is sick! its like its karate chopping the whoops. HIIIIYAA!! :)

bcampbell04
July 8th, 2007, 17:11
amazing looking truck. be looking for it at BITD events soon

Jerry Zaiden
July 9th, 2007, 09:09
Very nice. Can you tell us what that setup would cost.

The front I-Beam set up including Wilwood brake calipers, rotors, and pads, billet hubs, swing-set steering, and all the heims and hardware is $8500.00.

The rear 3 link kit including the carrier bearing mount and all heims and hardware is $4200.00.

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/7-07/_MG_0637.jpg

ANdY_JoNeS
July 10th, 2007, 16:29
does that link set up work on full size trucks?

Jerry Zaiden
July 10th, 2007, 18:25
does that link set up work on full size trucks?

No, we make 2 link kits for now. 1 kit os for the extra cab I-Beam Ranger and the other is for the extra cab A-Arm Ranger.

We do sell just the links for $2200 including the heims and uniballs in the front pivots with the spacers and the delrin uniball inserts.

loboboy
July 31st, 2007, 17:26
Jerry thanks for the great pics. I am pretty new to the Off road scene but I have spent countless hrs fabbing and building drag cars as a hobby. I will hopefully be contacting you in the near future to see about this setup for a Dune Toy. thinking of a Turbo'ed LS2 in a equal length I-Beam Ranger and 3 link.

Keep up the great work and I hope to get to know you guys alot more.

SR from Kansas

knucklemeat
August 2nd, 2007, 21:11
beautiful work as usual,but i have one question about the camber adjstment on the beams. when the upper heim is adjusted , i would imagine that the upper bolt on the spindle would no longer align with the heim due to the spindle rotating a little on the lower bolt as the top of the spindle comes in or out. maybe there is not enough rotation to cause miss-alignment, or you deal with this with off-center drilled bushings? sorry if this is a stupid question with an obvious answer that i don't see, but i was just wondering.

Jerry Zaiden
August 3rd, 2007, 00:27
beautiful work as usual,but i have one question about the camber adjstment on the beams. when the upper heim is adjusted , i would imagine that the upper bolt on the spindle would no longer align with the heim due to the spindle rotating a little on the lower bolt as the top of the spindle comes in or out. maybe there is not enough rotation to cause miss-alignment, or you deal with this with off-center drilled bushings? sorry if this is a stupid question with an obvious answer that i don't see, but i was just wondering.

It works just fine! You will just need to see it in person to understand how it works :) lol...

JTDezert
November 8th, 2007, 15:18
Jerry,

Very Very Nice. Can't wait to see it in the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt_Stankavich
November 9th, 2007, 02:27
Think I might have seen this on a trailer headed to Barstow last Sunday? If so it looks sick!

Jerry Zaiden
November 9th, 2007, 09:02
In the air about 2 feet... lol

DRIVE Jon
November 20th, 2007, 14:37
that front shock angle is sick! its like its karate chopping the whoops. HIIIIYAA!! :)

You're craaaazy........I like you..........but you're crazy! funniest $h!z in a while! I think you are like me, and this truck is so nice... it is starting to make you think twice about a Ffffff...Ffffffff....I can't even say it. Rrrrrr....Rrrrraaaa ......aw damn!!!! I'm just not ready yet!

beautiful work as usual,but i have one question about the camber adjstment on the beams. when the upper heim is adjusted , i would imagine that the upper bolt on the spindle would no longer align with the heim due to the spindle rotating a little on the lower bolt as the top of the spindle comes in or out. maybe there is not enough rotation to cause miss-alignment, or you deal with this with off-center drilled bushings? sorry if this is a stupid question with an obvious answer that i don't see, but i was just wondering.

I think if you just slotted the upper hole that the heim bolts through...you'd be set. Don't need much adjustment. Yery clever setup Jerry.

When you gonna post a little somth'n on the new "extreme" Taco kit. Need to something fancy for the Toyotas...the Tundra was awesome, but we want a phatty Taco! so-to-speak! Lets see the same rear-end put on the white Tacoma you have going.

McClintock
November 20th, 2007, 21:48
The design follows tangency and there is no need for a slot. Last thing you want is a slot on a off-road car, especially on a suspension system.

DRIVE Jon
November 21st, 2007, 11:00
The design follows tangency and there is no need for a slot. Last thing you want is a slot on a off-road car, especially on a suspension system.

How can the linear motion of the Heim screwing in/out follow an arc? Maybe what you mean is that over the given adjustment range..the heim bushing hole remains so close to tangent to the arc... that normal hole clearances will account for any loss of concentricity....or something! But you would probably need a real loose-fit hole...and I would rather have a nicely designed slot.

I would believe a slot, normal to arc, would not cause a problem. The lower bearing point will not allow any motion within the slot under normal loads....all(vast majority) loads are transmitted against the sides of the hole(force from knuckle travels along the arc), having a round hole would do no good...the upper and lower walls of the hole will never see any force...at least in a nearly perfect world. You would have to figure how much flex you expect in the parts. You may have experience otherwise....and i only have experience with this setup on non vehicle type-stuff....machine design. Combinations of pivots and slots are used in all sort of situations like this....but they have to be done carefully. Poorly used slots are always a bad thing.

Anyway...I'm a rookie vehicle designer, and a know-it-all = bad combo:D

Please explain...its probably simple and i am over-thinking it.

Jerry Zaiden
December 4th, 2007, 15:11
Well Ross finished the Henderson 400! He had his share of issues, flat tire, drive shaft against rocks, rear hubs came loose, rocks against brake lines... He had a great time, he came by the shop today and his per-ma grin is still stuck in happy mode...lol

The Beams worked out great! No signs of wear and all the parts look good. A final inspection through the MAG process and then a full prep for his new truck.

http://www.camburg.com/images/Savage%20Race%20Truck/rosssavage.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/henderson07/ross12.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/henderson07/ross11.jpg

http://www.camburg.com/images/henderson07/ross2.jpg

DRIVE Jon
December 4th, 2007, 16:09
Congrats on the truck finishing the first race! You must have done this before. The beams work!...even with magic camber-rod-end hole alignment that shouldn't work:D

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My favorite Ranga to date. Hope it is out at the Dash...along with the other Camburg stuff.

Jon

Jerry Zaiden
December 4th, 2007, 20:42
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Coming :) Three trucks getting built right now :) 2x Tundras and 1x Tacoma :)

DRIVE Jon
December 4th, 2007, 21:50
nice!

DesertLab
December 5th, 2007, 14:12
Congrats Ross on the finish.