WRC Round 7 Greece [Archive]

WRC

June 5th, 2002, 02:22

If one of those silver things wins this one I am going to http://www.millan.net/anims/thecatsign.gif

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WRC

June 5th, 2002, 02:27

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TimHayosh

June 5th, 2002, 13:33

Just to make it interesting, I didn't vote for a silver car.

Happy motoring, Tim

CoiloverKid

June 6th, 2002, 14:58

Penalty or not, France has a new hero. On his second championship outing in a WRC, Sebatien Loeb left Mcrae, Makinen, and sainz gasping for breath. Makinen is good at final-day charges on the monte, but he'd have needed something special to stop loeb. this guy is pure world champ material. better now, since he's the sole citroen driver now!

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Tim

June 6th, 2002, 19:52

WRC, I was just watching some videos of rally cars posted in a different thread. How do the cars and suspension handle that big of jumps!? Can any of the techniques they use be applied to my nearly stock truck. I want it to be more tough since I dont have the money for long travel fancy chit. enlighten me! Tim

WRC

June 7th, 2002, 02:31

The cars are very light and they have mega-buck coilovers in each corner. That combined with awesome fab work, well you see the result. The main thing is that they keep the weight way down and well distributed on the cars.

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WRC

June 7th, 2002, 02:34

Mr. Loeb only has one problem. Like Mr. P, he does not know how to drive on loose surfaces, i.e. rain, snow, dirt ect. Other than that, yep he is a great driver. http://www.race-dezert.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

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TimHayosh

June 7th, 2002, 12:29

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr>

Mr. Loeb only has one problem. Like Mr. P, he does not know how to drive on loose surfaces, i.e. rain, snow, dirt ect. Other than that, yep he is a great driver.

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Here is where you have stepped on your #^$%.

Mr. P is truely a tarmac specialist. However, Mr. Loeb is stunning on the dirt. Ever heard of the Super 1600?

In 1998 & 1999 he was the Citroen Trophy champion (mixed surfaces).
In 2000 he finished in the top 10 (WRC) in a Toyota at Corsica (I know, it's tarmac) and SanRemo
In 2001 he was simultaneously the French Rally Champion AND the WRC Super 1600 Champion*.
*He won 5 out of 5 events on WRC stages.

Further, "...he does not know how to drive on loose surfaces..." You're kidding, right? A pretty bold statement from someone that I haven't even seen at a RallyCross.

Happy motoring, Tim

CoiloverKid

June 7th, 2002, 14:38

yeah tim, you said it. he basically dominated. watch out for the new mitsu driver, Jani Paasonen..even though he had a rough time at sweden, he shows talent at a young age. And dont forget Markko Martin..if he can manange to not crash something before a rally haha...

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scott

June 7th, 2002, 22:36

Apples and Oranges, Horseshoes and Handgrenades. You can't compare a World Rally Car to a super 1600.... Thats like comparing a 1/2-1600 to a Trophy Truck... I know drivers in Offroad that can drive the hell out of a Class 1 car with a 320 HP v-6 or a Scat Motor thats running 300 HP but have problems with a 700 to 750 HP Trophy Truck, thats wide, heavy, and handles different....... Just my 2 cents...

TimHayosh

June 7th, 2002, 22:49

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Apples and Oranges, Horseshoes and Handgrenades. You can't compare a World Rally Car to a super 1600....

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My point was not that the cars were the same, but that Mr. Loeb has demonstrated significant ability on multiple surfaces.

Happy motoring, Tim

WRC

June 8th, 2002, 00:01

Come on Tim, don’t be like so many other RDC peeps. I can’t (don’t want to anyway) believe that you of all people would take me literally.
My point: Against current company and equipment, Sebastien Loeb is not up to par (yet) on the loose surfaces. Super 1600 is a whole different ball game, minor league if you will. He is in the “big show” now and a Burn’s, Gronholm, Makinen or McRae he certainly is not, not yet anyway.
As for my bold statement. It’s my opinion and has nothing to do with my own personal driving skill. Hell you should hear me rip on politics’ and politicians but I wouldn’t have the first clue on how to run the country, get my drift. Just my opinion and its not worth the time it takes you to read it.http://www.race-dezert.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
And for the record, I was the fastest kid around the playground on the tricycles in kindergarten! So there! http://www.race-dezert.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

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gary

June 9th, 2002, 21:03

you oughta change the "enthusiast" under your name to "Trophy Trike!!!!!"

CoiloverKid

June 10th, 2002, 00:08

LOL.... that reminds me of that japanese commercial for a rally game with a kid in a trike drifting down the hallway haha

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WRC

June 10th, 2002, 00:12

TT (trophy trike) LMAO!
CK, got any pics of that?

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CoiloverKid

June 10th, 2002, 00:45

SURE DO! here you go, just let it load. HILARIOUS!!

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WRC

June 10th, 2002, 11:03

Howz this? LMAO!

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CoiloverKid

June 10th, 2002, 12:02

HAHAHA....that'd be a good sig with "i started young" ..i was gonna do that lol...i've got plenty other weird stuff like that.

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WRC

June 12th, 2002, 02:17

Back on topic:

The Acropolis Rally (Greece) starts on Friday. First TV coverage starts on Thursday night @8pm then each night after that through Monday at the same time on SpeedChannel. Don’t miss it! For off road fans this is a great rally to watch. Very much like a cross between Barstow & Mexico.

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CoiloverKid

June 12th, 2002, 02:51

ohh dude you bet it's a great rally. i cant wait for them to hit the Col!! It covers a broad aspect of driving skills, and this is year will not disappoint! I wonder how young loeb will do...

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WRC

June 14th, 2002, 22:12

END OF LEG 1

OUTRIGHT

1 Martin Ford Focus RS WRC 1:43:01,6
2 Loix Hyundai Accent WRC3 1:43:52,3
3 McRae Ford Focus RS WRC 1:43:54,6
4 Rovanpera Peugeot 206 WRC 1:43:57,4
5 Sainz Ford Focus RS WRC 1:44:11,0
6 Burns Peugeot 206 WRC 1:44:13,3
7 Gronholm Peugeot 206 WRC 1:44:18,4
8 Schwarz Hyundai Accent WRC3 1:44:18,7
9 Loeb Citroen Xsara WRC 1:44:22,3
10 Radstrom Citroen Xsara WRC 1:44:31,3

STAGE WINNERS

SS1 - Martin, SS2 - Radstrom, SS3 - Loix, SS4 - Martin,
SS5 - Martin, SS6 - Solberg

LEADING RETIREMENTS

SS6 Makinen Subaru Impreza Hit rock/power steering

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WRC

June 16th, 2002, 02:48

END OF LEG 2

OUTRIGHT

1 McRae Ford Focus RS WRC 3:23:02,1
2 Burns Peugeot 206 WRC 3:23:34,7
3 Gronholm Peugeot 206 WRC 3:23:44,4
4 Sainz Ford Focus RS WRC 3:24:32,3
5 Loix Hyundai Accent WRC3 3:24:40,0
6 Rovanpera Peugeot 206 WRC 3:24:56,8
7 Solberg Subaru Impreza WRC 3:25:11,6
8 Martin Ford Focus RS WRC 3:25:23,9
9 Loeb Citroen Xsara WRC 3:25:29,6
10 Radstrom Citroen Xsara WRC 3:26:31,0

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STAGE WINNERS

SS7 - Solberg, SS8 - Martin, SS9 - Burns, SS10 - Cancelled,
SS11 - Solberg, SS12 - Martin

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CoiloverKid

June 16th, 2002, 11:42

HAHA!!! i knew markko had it in him!! woo hoo.

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WRC

June 16th, 2002, 12:12

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UNOFFICIAL FINAL RESULTS

OUTRIGHT

1 McRae Ford Focus RS WRC 4:27:43,8
2 Gronholm Peugeot 206 WRC 4:28:08,3
3 Sainz Ford Focus RS WRC 4:29:29,4
4 Rovanpera Peugeot 206 WRC 4:29:41,4
5 Solberg Subaru Impreza WRC 4:29:42,4
6 Martin Ford Focus RS WRC 4:30:23,9
7 Loeb Citroen Xsara WRC 4:31:29,6
8 Radstrom Citroen Xsara WRC 4:32:52,5
9 Schwarz Hyundai Accent WRC 4:33:24,8
10 Gardemeister Skoda Octavia WRC 4:35:01,2

JUNIOR WRC

1 Tuohino Citroen Saxo GTS 5:04:27,8
2 Dallavilla Citroen Saxo 5:05:51,1
3 Caldini Fiat Punto 5:07:13,7
4 Sola Citroen Saxo 5:08:08,5
5 Rowe Ford Puma 5:09:50,8

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CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS

FIA World Rally Championship for Drivers:
Grönholm (FIN) 37
Sainz (E) 23
Panizzi (F) 20
McRae (GB) 20
Burns (GB) 19
Solberg (N) 15
Mäkinen (FIN) 14
Others

FIA World Rally Championship for Manufacturers:
Peugeot 77
Ford 55
Subaru 35
Mitsubishi 6
Skoda 5
Hyundai 4

FIA Junior World Rally Championship (after 3 of 6 rounds):
Sola (E) 13
Tuohino (FIN) 12
Dallavilla (I) 12
Duval (B) 11
Caldani (I) 10
Others

FIA Cup for Drivers of Production Cars (after 4 of 8 rounds):
Ferreyros (PE) 20
Singh (MAL) 14
Trelles (ROU) 12
Arai (JP) 12
Sohlberg (FIN) 10
Iliev (BG) 9
Others

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STAGE WINNERS

Martin 1,4,5,8,12
Grönholm 13,14,15
Solberg 6,11,7
Radstrom 2
Loix 3
Burns 9
Rovanperä 16

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LEADING RETIREMENTS

SS14 Loix Hyundai Accent WRC No oil
SS13 Burns Peugeot 206 WRC Suspension
SS13 A.McRae Mitsubishi Lancer WRC Suspension
SS8 Kankkunen Hyundai Accent WRC Mechanical
SS6 Makinen Subaru Impreza Hit rock/power steering

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WRC

June 17th, 2002, 02:44

a white car won....
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AllwaysRcn

June 17th, 2002, 08:35

Bout Fricken Time!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.race-dezert.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif

"Quality has No Fear of Time"