Dakar Trucks (video)

[SunsetCliffsMocos]

My friend sent me this video. i don't know if it's already been posted here on RDC but i thought I'd share with La Familia...

Kamaz 4x4 Rally truck Dakar www.hardtrucks.lap.pl

Merry Christmas!!!

[Dan McMillin]

My friend sent me this video. i don't know if it's already been posted here on RDC but i thought I'd share with La Familia...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1245751998694395737&q=truck+rally&hl=en

Merry Christmas!!!

Great Video! I wish my trash man drove like that! He would get "crap" done faster ;)

[14802]

I know they are normally entered as a chase vehicle, but could you imagine if one of this beasts "NERFED" you.... Never knew they catch decent air .Very cool video

[ARCRacing]

Great Video! I wish my trash man drove like that! He would get "crap" done faster ;)Hey Dan how would you like him to nerf you in a race?:D

[Bulldozer]

That would have to be the scariest ride on the planet.


Looks fun :D

[Dan McMillin]

Hey Dan how would you like him to nerf you in a race?:D

It would be the end of my day, thats for sure!

[Ramsey_ElWardani]

You should see all the spare parts bouncing around in the back.

[kats]

Does anyone know if theres a name for this vehicles or "class"?

Thanks for the link I'm very impressed the down side is I have been telling my two year old that big rigs can't jump and he came to the computer when I was watching this video, he demands and explenation.......lol.

[450grl]

OK - that's gotta be the coolest thing I have ever seen!!! LOL!!! I watched parts of the Dakar a few years ago on TV, and those trucks were my favorite ones to watch - they showed them in dunes like the big dunes at glamis.......seems like there is nothing those big trucks can't do!!! Why doesn't SCORE have a class for them?? LOL!!! And that driver is nuts for flying through the woods in that thing!!! HAHAHA!

[UOURacing]

I love the part where it flashes to the mass start of the bikes. I laughed and thought "this must be all of the guys on bikes running for their lives!" I could not fathom being on a bike or quad and having one of these bears on your six! Great vid complete with Euro tech rave music!

[Baja Belk]

That must be the training video they show UPS truck drivers....

[dezerts10]

theres a class in dakar for those truck i beleive. deffinately impressive.

Gregg

[Big Oly TT]

You should see all the spare parts bouncing around in the back.

Too funny. Forget about trophy trucks! Those things will spank RG!! haha. Do they??????? I have one on order with the .60 caliber machine guns and rocket launcher options for the 2007 Baja 1000. So I can BLOW the competiton away. Literally.........:cool: :eek:

[schofox racing]

is amazing the video , the capacity of driver ,he drove that truck is same a litle truck

[Dan McMillin]

Too funny. Forget about trophy trucks! Those things will spank RG!! haha. Do they??????? I have one on order with the .60 caliber machine guns and rocket launcher options for the 2007 Baja 1000. So I can BLOW the competiton away. Literally.........:cool: :eek:

Good Luck on the Mikes Loop with one of those! ;)

[JrSyko]

Could you imagine following that guy's dust? No thank you!

[El Ranas]

Imagine one of that truck jumping in ojos :eek: run people run :cool:

[Bulldozer]

imagine everyone standing on the track as they expect a trophy truck to come over a big jump, and they all get an up close encounter with a big rig.

[prolite54]

Could be a rumor but I heard these trucks will be the new Corr half time show. They will run at the same time as the Trophy Karts.

[desertbull]

this was discussed in another thread in the rally section and here's some cool news... ---

Turbo Tom Geviss is racing the brand new Robby Gordon MAN Chase Truck at Dakar. He was announced as the driver of record in the #556 with Will Higman & Paul Mischel. Driving the other Robby Gordon 6x6 truck is Roger Willis in a support role.

Turbo was getting it big in the testing sessions at Parker and Glamis...he has commented that it gonna be fast and furious...

Darren Skilton is driving the #572 Mercedes Chase Truck-also a full size "trash truck" and you can be sure they will be rocking and rolling representing the US.

[AzBajaman]

Cool video....so when are these guys going to cross over to race the Baja 1000, very impressive driving.....

[GlamisGurlie]

I just found my new favorite class!! WoooooHOOOOOO... That's my kind of truck! And who says size doesn't matter ... Sorry TT guys ;)

[BRINGTHERUCKUS]

where's robby at? screw the H3 race a peterbuilt

go for the overall!!!

[scary fast hummer]

Welcome to our world on this side of the pond!

I had one of the beasts start in front of me in Morocco last march and thought I was going to have to eat thrown rocks until I could get around it. HAH! He started 30 secs ahead of me and once he went around the first bend, I never saw him again until the end of the day. They rock! 1200+ hp. They run in Class 4 Trucks (over 7.5 tonnes). Pickups, like ProTrucks and TT's are considered "cars" over here.

I have some Dutch friends who keep threatening to bring their Kamaz over for the Baja 1000 and spank the trophy trucks. In the Dakar, Trucks start last and have the top speeds limited because when something goes wrong with 10+ tonnes moving like a tornado in a trailer park, things go very, very badly very quick. By the way, you can't nerf over here, considered "bad form" and you'd get black flagged. How we get around the problem is by using a gps based transmitter that starts blinking and screaming when another unit is closing up on you. Basically, it tells you to get your butt over to the side. This technology has saved the lives of countless bikers from bieng run over by cars and the big trucks.

Cheers!

[woundedyak]

Wow! Make sure you pack a kidney belt and a box of depends!

[450grl]

Welcome to our world on this side of the pond!

I had one of the beasts start in front of me in Morocco last march and thought I was going to have to eat thrown rocks until I could get around it. HAH! He started 30 secs ahead of me and once he went around the first bend, I never saw him again until the end of the day. They rock! 1200+ hp. They run in Class 4 Trucks (over 7.5 tonnes). Pickups, like ProTrucks and TT's are considered "cars" over here.

I have some Dutch friends who keep threatening to bring their Kamaz over for the Baja 1000 and spank the trophy trucks. In the Dakar, Trucks start last and have the top speeds limited because when something goes wrong with 10+ tonnes moving like a tornado in a trailer park, things go very, very badly very quick. By the way, you can't nerf over here, considered "bad form" and you'd get black flagged. How we get around the problem is by using a gps based transmitter that starts blinking and screaming when another unit is closing up on you. Basically, it tells you to get your butt over to the side. This technology has saved the lives of countless bikers from bieng run over by cars and the big trucks.

Cheers!


Tell your friends to just DO IT! LOL!!! That would add a whole new element to the Baja, for sure!!! ;) And that transmitter is an awesome idea......

[bufeo]

Welcome to our world on this side of the pond!

...I have some Dutch friends who keep threatening to bring their Kamaz over for the Baja 1000 and spank the trophy trucks... .

Cheers!

That would be something to see. Brings back memories of another time, another type of motor racing, and names like Colin Chapman and Jimmy Clark. :)

Those TRUCKS are fun to watch. By far my wife's favorite spectator sport.

Allen R

[Kartman]

The Man trucks are awesome. Somone bring them to Baja.

The Final Countdown cover song was rad too

[#1PatDeanFan]

I would love to see how they keep all the spare parts and tools tied down inside that thing!!

[vwcardoc]

I would love to see how they keep all the spare parts and tools tied down inside that thing!!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/allvalley/rgchase3.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/allvalley/rgchase2.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/allvalley/rgchase.jpg

[bufeo]

Judging from roadside carnage we've seen, our local Schwan's driver needs one of these. :)

Allen R

[John F2000]

very cool video.

Not to side track, but does anyone have video of Robby jumping the starting line at paris/dakar?

[elmariachi]

Gotta luv it...Trophy Trash-Trucks (TTT)

Sick jump at about 4:35 of the video

[NicksTrix]

impressive. those guys must be having a blast.

[Chase 2]

One of the best teams never got through scrutineering last year. Watch for team De Rooy in the upcomming race, they are the ones to beat.

[KoeniE]

just for your info: the fasted of them all... (the sister of this truck had a fatal crash in 1988) the speed in the video next to the peugot from ari vatanen was 225 km/h(over 140 Miles per hour) These thrucks had two twin turbo charged of about 550 HP each one driving the front wheels other driving the rear wheels...

Daf turbo twin Dakar 1988 Jan de Rooy

Newer material:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8077589495464575739&q=dakar+daf&hl=en

These are the trucks to race... not to chase!

Grtz Koen

[KoeniE]

Welcome to our world on this side of the pond!

I had one of the beasts start in front of me in Morocco last march and thought I was going to have to eat thrown rocks until I could get around it. HAH! He started 30 secs ahead of me and once he went around the first bend, I never saw him again until the end of the day. They rock! 1200+ hp. They run in Class 4 Trucks (over 7.5 tonnes). Pickups, like ProTrucks and TT's are considered "cars" over here.

I have some Dutch friends who keep threatening to bring their Kamaz over for the Baja 1000 and spank the trophy trucks. In the Dakar, Trucks start last and have the top speeds limited because when something goes wrong with 10+ tonnes moving like a tornado in a trailer park, things go very, very badly very quick. By the way, you can't nerf over here, considered "bad form" and you'd get black flagged. How we get around the problem is by using a gps based transmitter that starts blinking and screaming when another unit is closing up on you. Basically, it tells you to get your butt over to the side. This technology has saved the lives of countless bikers from bieng run over by cars and the big trucks.

Cheers!

You still wanna join cole if we bring one over? ;)

750 HP and 7500 Kg... diesel 6 straight independant suspension and not Kamaz but Daf and Ginaf
we even have guys that run caterpillar C18 engines on 950 HP in these beasts.

too bad... nowedays limited to 150 KM/H (90 Miles per Hour) with out limiter 200+

The system that cole talkes about is called Sentinel read more about it here : http://www.dakar.com/2006/presentation/us/r1_prev_securite.html

Grtz Koen

[RC RACING]

Imagine the people at Zoo Road trying to touch one of these, ouch :eek:
what about getting a facial from one of these, like the one guy at Ojos

[Alliturken]

just for your info: the fasted of them all... (the sister of this truck had a fatal crash in 1988) the speed in the video next to the peugot from ari vatanen was 225 km/h(over 140 Miles per hour) These thrucks had two twin turbo charged of about 550 HP each one driving the front wheels other driving the rear wheels...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=83093924133039291&q=dakar+daf&hl=en

Newer material:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8077589495464575739&q=dakar+daf&hl=en

These are the trucks to race... not to chase!

Grtz Koen


Fantastic! I love those things. Beasts!

"Facial": LMAO. Oh man.

[ranger09]

so which is faster, trophy trucks or these class 4 beasts?

[Bulldozer]

so which is faster, trophy trucks or these class 4 beasts?
trophy trucks by far.

[ranger09]

just wondering, what speeds do those class 4 dakar trucks average?

[EdSharkyCruz]

Those trucks are awesome.......:D

[FlyHiFlyLo]

I want to see the Americans run a 4x4 version of this with a 1400HP CAT These things come stock with 16" of travel

http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/defense/products~mtvr~home.cfm Click on the video.

[scary fast hummer]

You still wanna join cole if we bring one over? ;)

750 HP and 7500 Kg... diesel 6 straight independant suspension and not Kamaz but Daf and Ginaf
we even have guys that run caterpillar C18 engines on 950 HP in these beasts.

too bad... nowedays limited to 150 KM/H (90 Miles per Hour) with out limiter 200+

The system that cole talkes about is called Sentinel read more about it here : http://www.dakar.com/2006/presentation/us/r1_prev_securite.html

Grtz Koen


Hey Koen, Good to hear from you. YOU BET!, if you want to bring one over let me know, I'll join in!!!

Cheers,
Cole

[scary fast hummer]

Koen, as P.S., I'm looking at a Tatra 813 8x8 to support my next race. Not as fast as the 4wd trucks but gotta lotta bling factor:D

[RGFan]

[QUOTE=scary fast hummer;239765]Koen, as P.S., I'm looking at a Tatra 813 8x8 to support my next race. Not as fast as the 4wd trucks but gotta lotta bling factor:D[/QUOTE

THe HEMTT A3's haul *** for a truck of its size. They are called Dragon Wagons in the military. I am not sure since Iraq, but prior, when they were having war games in Yuma and 29 palms, you could see them caravaning either on the 8 or 10 freeway's. I had the chance to see one work out by slab city (near Brawley) off road and that thing had to be doing 50 mph hauling 10000 gallons of JP-7 jet fuel on an old, very rutted dirt road. It was amazing to see.

[RGFan]

Between CAT and Osh Kosh, I would think that the US Teams would love to be pushing American vehicles at such an event. Maybe something to consider down the road if it has not been already.

[Old Man]

Does anyone remember in 1999 when Rod Hall arranged with Casey Folks to bring a few of his Russian friends over with their Kamaz, as I recall, to demo it in the BITD Vegas to Reno race? Parts of the course in the mountains were littered with tree branches after and they said "No good! Too much trees!" I picture parts of Baja like the pine forest and some narrow trail sections about the same. Sounds really cool but probably wouldn't work. Opinions?

[KoeniE]

Koen, as P.S., I'm looking at a Tatra 813 8x8 to support my next race. Not as fast as the 4wd trucks but gotta lotta bling factor:D

Buying or Hiring? if it is the last i might have a 6x6 for you...

Rumours... Robby gordon who comes over to the netherlands for 2 6x6 for assistance and 1 4x4 Ginaf as race truck... (www.ginafrallypower.com)

[KoeniE]

Between CAT and Osh Kosh, I would think that the US Teams would love to be pushing American vehicles at such an event. Maybe something to consider down the road if it has not been already.

Oshkosh is not interested because they don't sell trucks to public...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Oshkosh is not interested because they don't sell trucks to public...

They sell thousands to the public every year...


http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/concrete/products~highland~home.cfm

[KoeniE]

They sell thousands to the public every year...


http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/concrete/products~highland~home.cfm

Not the MTVR...

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Not the MTVR...

VW doesn't sell Race Turage IIs also...

It's all about brand recognition.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

"Tough enough for Dakar, tough enough for my concrete company or airport"

[RGFan]

"Tough enough for Dakar, tough enough for my concrete company or airport"
Exactly!!! It is all about marketing and publicizing brand recognition. Oshkosh and Catepillar for that matter is big on pushing USA built and supporting the American way and our troops. Oshkosh, Catepillar and Hummer are all known for building some of the toughest vehicles on the planet. From a marketing standpoint, it would be a match made in heaven I would think. Once upon a time, H1's were only sold to the military. Until they found out there was an actual market for their vehicles. This would be a coop for Oshkosh as far as marketing to the European masses. If they felt there was a market to sell to, like any good business, they would capitalize on it . As far as only selling to the military, Aircraft companies sell to the public all of the time. Bell Textron still sells its 212 to private buyers all over the world, it is a HH1N Fat Attack minus armor and weaponry. I think that they would consider it. Business is business, only time will tell. The question is would RG consider using their equipment. THose vehicles have PTO's which drive the wheels on the trailer as well. That is alot more money to ship those things over to Europe. It would be quite an expensive endeavor. But using those would definetely catch my attention and draw me in.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

The question is would RG consider using their equipment. THose vehicles have PTO's which drive the wheels on the trailer as well. That is alot more money to ship those things over to Europe. It would be quite an expensive endeavor.

Considering RG's support trucks are a "full cost" expense, any support from CAT or Oshkosh would be of value.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

If RG was to get 6 trucks and 3 months Oshkosh engineering support (roughly 2000 man hours) provided to him, plus cash and tweaked engines from CAT this would greatly enhance RG's support crew. Remember, RG had no on course "race support" for his "race support". This could have been a serious issue.

[RGFan]

If RG was to get 6 trucks and 3 months Oshkosh engineering support (roughly 2000 man hours) provided to him, plus cash and tweaked engines from CAT this would greatly enhance RG's support crew. Remember, RG had no on course "race support" for his "race support". This could have been a serious issue.

Fly, I thought that was why the T-4 was there for with Tom Geviss. I thought their whole purpose was to race, but be on course support, was I incorrect in my thinking?

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Exactly, but if Turbo Tom's Trio got in a major jam he had no support for him. It is best to have two T-4s stuck together like glue the whole race.

[RGFan]

Exactly, but if Turbo Tom's Trio got in a major jam he had no support for him. It is best to have two T-4s stuck together like glue the whole race.

That is a very good point. I know it is a pipe dream as of now, but man would it be cool to see 3 or 4 of those H3's racing against the production teams, with two beasts on course for each one. Man, if anyone has proven to the Big 3 that they are capable of owning/ managing a competetive team in Dakar, it is Robby Gordon.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Man, if anyone has proven to the Big 3 that they are capable of owning/ managing a competetive team in Dakar, it is Robby Gordon.

Yes, but even Robby would be hard pressed to find another American that could drive one of those Hummers that fast for 17 days and 6000 miles and finish in the top ten or even bring it home in one peice.

[RGFan]

Yes, but even Robby would be hard pressed to find another American that could drive one of those Hummers that fast for 17 days and 6000 miles and finish in the top ten or even bring it home in one peice.

I think a couple of wheel men from SCORE could handle the job. Believe it or not, besides for Robby, there are a few more world class talents that reside right here in the US. People who can get in and compete in just about anything with wheels. Big names that could along with Robby bring the media with them, I am not saying that they would not need to practice a bit before a race of this magnitude, but there are some people who can just drive, no matter what you put them in. The queston is, would they want to do Dakar. They are the one's who needs to be sold. The drivers with bling so to speak. Seems to me that Robby is amazed with the kind of attention this race gets outside the US, sell that to the big named drivers. Sell the adventure of Dakar. Sell going to Africa and seeing it like very few ever get to, sell racing on a beach with hundreds of thousands cheering you on. Like I said, It is a pipe dream, I know that. But man would it be cool to have 4 H3's built by RGM competing for the title with Volkswagon and Mitsubishi.

Since this is my dream, I would also like to see Robby Gordon Motorsports become the next Penske Racing. With 2 or 3 competetive Nascar teams, a couple of Busch teams, a pair of IRL Teams, an ALMS team, with a trophy truck, a pro 2 truck and the Dakar team. I would be tempted to give up my 6 digits to sweep floors for a program like that. Man I am pathetic....I need to get a life...... somebody wake my *** up.....:D

[TROPHYSEDAN]

I am not a big name. but put me on the list to go to Dakar. I have been working on getting there for acouple years. I still plan on going. Congrats to all our teams over there and thanks you.

[FlyHiFlyLo]

Since this is my dream, I would also like to see Robby Gordon Motorsports become the next Penske Racing. With 2 or 3 competetive Nascar teams, a couple of Busch teams, a pair of IRL Teams, an ALMS team, with a trophy truck, a pro 2 truck and the Dakar team. I would be tempted to give up my 6 digits to sweep floors for a program like that. Man I am pathetic....I need to get a life...... somebody wake my *** up.....:D

Robby is well understanding in ten years where he needs to be business wise. He knows being an owner is an option. He also knows what his unfinished business is, Indy 500, Daytona 500 and now Dakar. Sweeping floors would be a good place to be a Fly on the wall.

[RGFan]

Robby is well understanding in ten years where he needs to be business wise. He knows being an owner is an option. He also knows what his unfinished business is, Indy 500, Daytona 500 and now Dakar. Sweeping floors would be a good place to be a Fly on the wall.


Well then, lets say cheers to watching the next 10 years of RGM and seeing what happens. Although I was hoping someone would wake me up:D I do not think the wif would appreciate me quitting work to sweep floors at RGM

[RGFan]

Has anyone heard from Oshkosh yet? International has some pretty sweet vehicles as well that has been desert tested.

[KoeniE]

VW doesn't sell Race Turage IIs also...

It's all about brand recognition.

you can buy them... just bring them €595000 and you own one...

[Race8100]

more Kamaz action

YouTube - Russian Kamaz trucks in action at IDEX

[CHROMOLY77]

i wanna see a freightliner do something like that !

[RGordonRedBull]

Nice...

[1wayne]

I'll drive the chase truck for the chase truck!