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BAPerf

August 23rd, 2006, 18:02

Driver's Champions ... There were 7 different drivers that won this award from 1983 - 1994. Can anyone name all 7 in order?

I'll post the answer in the A.M. tomorrow.

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 10:13

Nobody's going to even try and name the Grand National Sport Truck champs?

RacerX

August 24th, 2006, 12:18

Driver's Champions ... There were 7 different drivers that won this award from 1983 - 1994. Can anyone name all 7 in order?

I'll post the answer in the A.M. tomorrow.

Ivan stewart 1983,1984,1990
Steve Millen 1986,1988,1989
Rod Millen 1992, 1993,1994

think thats right so far
still trying to work on the others

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 12:40

Ivan stewart 1983,1984,1990
Steve Millen 1986,1988,1989
Rod Millen 1992, 1993,1994

think thats right so far
still trying to work on the others

Here's a hint... The GNST Driver's champ in 1989 also won the 1988 Super 1600 championship...

RacerX

August 24th, 2006, 13:07

Here's a hint... The GNST Driver's champ in 1989 also won the 1988 Super 1600 championship...

I have Steve Millen winning it in 89.

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 13:44

I have Steve Millen winning it in 89.

According to MTEG doc's he was not the winner in '89. It was another Californian... (actually, they all were).

Here's another clue.... The 1989 GNST driver's champion raced in a Ford, and had Toyota power in ***HIS*** Super 1600 the year before.

******** EDIT******** Change the Ford GNST truck to a PPI/Toyota, per earlier MTEG documents...

RacerX

August 24th, 2006, 14:16

According to MTEG doc's he was not the winner in '89. It was another Californian... (actually, they all were).

Here's another clue.... The 1989 GNST driver's champion raced in a Ford, and had Toyota power in ***HIS*** Super 1600 the year before.

That would be Robby Gordon then in 1989

motojojo7s

August 24th, 2006, 14:19

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 14:43

That would be Robby Gordon then in 1989

Ding, Ding, Ding. You are correct.

That's 4 of the 7 Champs!

Here's another hint for you guys. There Three of the driver's champs had son's that raced in the class. You already guessed one of them... Ivan Stewart (son Brian).

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 14:45

Trackside has some good photo from the Coliseum...
<<<Page 1>>> (http://www.tracksidephoto.com/classic/Coliseum/)
<<<Page 2>>> (http://www.tracksidephoto.com/classic/Coliseum/index_2.htm)
http://www.tracksidephoto.com/classic/Coliseum/images/LAColiseum_0289.jpg
http://www.tracksidephoto.com/classic/Coliseum/images/LAColiseum_0292.jpg

Spencer Low 1983 Grand National Champion
Roger Mears 1985 Grand National Champion

According to my paper's, Ivan Stewart was the 1983 Grand National Champ.

You are correct however, as Roger Mears Sr. was the 1985 Champ.

That's 5 of 7..., and two of the three dad's that had sons in the class. (Roger Jr. raced in the class with his dad Roger Mears Sr.)

motojojo7s

August 24th, 2006, 15:37

Opps! Your right...Spencer Low 1982 Mickey Thompson Short Course Drivers' Championship, Mickey Thompson 1982 Short Course Manufacturers' Championship.

TROPHYSEDAN

August 24th, 2006, 17:12

Even Evens raced.

Harpo

August 24th, 2006, 17:25

I believe that Glen Walker Harris won one in the Mazda, or he came real close.
Did Rob Mac win one?

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 17:31

Even Evens raced.

I'll give you that one, Walker Evans won the driver's championship in 1991.

That's 6 out of 7.

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 17:34

I believe that Glen Walker Harris won one in the Mazda, or he came real close.
Did Rob Mac win one?

The last champion left, was in a Mazda, but it wasn't Glenn Harris. Also, it's not Rod Millen, as his championships were in Toyota's. This champ later worked as general manager at PPI. He also won races in a Ranger, and possibly a Toyota after his championship run for Mazda.

As for Rob MacCachren, unfortunately, he didn't win a championship in GNST's.

BAPerf

August 24th, 2006, 17:36

Opps! Your right...Spencer Low 1982 Mickey Thompson Short Course Drivers' Championship, Mickey Thompson 1982 Short Course Manufacturers' Championship.

All my MTEG "stuff" lists the series as running from '83 through mid '95. I'd bet that "short course" Driver's championship was from the races at Riverside!

TROPHYSEDAN

August 24th, 2006, 18:27

was it Rod millen. They swithed trucks and makes over time. from mazda to toyota. didnt rod race Rally before off road. how bout Jeff Huber

dezerts10

August 24th, 2006, 18:31

motojojo7s

August 25th, 2006, 08:14

what kinda motors were inthe mteg trucks? I looked at the old chevy / dodge a while back that was in south africa and i thought it had a v6. would the 4 bangers of today beable to compete with them?

Gregg

SLR's motor...

http://www.spencerlowracing.com/gallery/engine.jpg

They used to swap paint at Estero Beach together...<<<Video>>> (http://www.spencerlowracing.com/videos/slr_huseman.mpg)

Mazda...hmmm...Mazda drivers were Glen Harris, Jeff Huber, and Rod Millen. Huber also raced for Toyota but didn't win a championship for them, so I think Dennis is right.

BAPerf

August 25th, 2006, 08:56

was it Rod millen. They swithed trucks and makes over time. from mazda to toyota. didnt rod race Rally before off road. how bout Jeff Huber

Correct! Jeff Huber was GM for PPI through the Ford days in Cup, not sure after that.

1983 - Ivan Stewart
1984 - Ivan Stewart
1985 - Roger Mears Sr.
1986 - Steve Millen
1987 - Jeff Huber
1988 - Steve Millen
1989 - Robby Gordon
1990 - Ivan Stewart
1991 - Walker Evans
1992 - Rod Millen
1993 - Rod Millen
1994 -

motojojo7s

August 25th, 2006, 10:59

BAPerf

August 25th, 2006, 11:14

1983 - Ivan Stewart
1984 - Ivan Stewart
1985 - Roger Mears Sr.
1986 - Steve Millen
1987 - Jeff Huber
1988 - Steve Millen
1989 - Robby Gordon
1990 - Ivan Stewart
1991 - Walker Evans
1992 - Rod Millen
1993 - Rod Millen
1994 - Rod Millen

Rod Millen won three in a row, thats the complete list! Do we win a scan of your MTEG papers?

Soon enough my son.... I'm compiling more and more each day. Soon (relatively) I will be hosting an on-line museum about the MTEG series. Everything I have found will be available on the website. There is quite a bit of mis-information surrounding the series, probably due to the time passed, so I am researching everything to try and provide as accurate information as I can.

The website will have everything from heat/ main event results, to video's, to pictures, to trivia, to technical info, to dyno sheets, to ad's, etc... If anyone has information or memorabilia that I can scan, copy, or borrow (I could never ask anyone to let go of their stuff), I would appreciate it greatly. The quicker I can compile info, the sooner I will launch the website.

TROPHYSEDAN

August 25th, 2006, 17:58

I will check with my uncle next week about some vidios Mickey had made of the races. You would think after all those years in a 11 car i wouldent remember anything. pictures coming soon. Dennis

TROPHYSEDAN

August 25th, 2006, 21:48

some pics.

TROPHYSEDAN

August 25th, 2006, 21:52

2 more. Sorry. if you can make them smaller

BAPerf

August 29th, 2006, 17:43

All my MTEG "stuff" lists the series as running from '83 through mid '95. I'd bet that "short course" Driver's championship was from the races at Riverside!

A recent discovery has Spencer Low winning two races at the L.A. county fairgrounds (Pomona) in 1982 prior to the MTEG series first events in '83. Mickey Thompson/ SCORE ran the races in '82 also, but the MTEG series as we know it began in '83.

Gadzooks2

September 3rd, 2006, 23:30

I know, Does anyone know how much extra weight the Mazdas were made to carry to allow the twice as big piston motor cars to keep up with them?:confused:

BAPerf

September 5th, 2006, 11:27

I know, Does anyone know how much extra weight the Mazdas were made to carry to allow the twice as big piston motor cars to keep up with them?:confused:

The Mazda trucks ran at the same weight as the Ford 4-cylinder trucks. 2850lbs.

DEZERTBOUND

September 7th, 2006, 15:30

This MTEG talk sure takes me back to a lot of fun times....

DEZERTBOUND

September 8th, 2006, 08:54

We (Hagle lumber) had a great test track next to the lumber yard. Many team rented it. Kind of hard to draw with all that entertainment going on.

DEZERTBOUND

September 8th, 2006, 08:56

More of Glenn....

DEZERTBOUND

September 8th, 2006, 09:12

and Mr Stewart. Jeff Gordon drove the toyota race truck one day at the test track. Put it on it's lid at least once. lack of car control,lol. Mr Walker Evans, Jimmy Johnson and Scott Douglas brought their Corr trucks. Mr Evans had the best engines and storys. Scott had the fastest truck. Rod Millen had the best turning control. The rest did not pay there bills so I WILL NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THEM.

TROPHYSEDAN

September 8th, 2006, 17:00

The test track in Camoreo. What track was it after. What city. What city was the other track in. The main track that Toyota and Chevy used. We built the track in Camoreo and the other track.

DEZERTBOUND

September 8th, 2006, 17:29

The lumber yard and test tract were in Somis. next door to Camarillo in Ventura county. Is this the tract you are thinking about....TROPHYSEDAN? It is all lumber now.

TROPHYSEDAN

September 9th, 2006, 01:27

When we built the track the very first time in the horse paster. it was from the Denver track. Behind the lumber yard.

DEZERTBOUND

September 9th, 2006, 14:13

Same place I remember when you guys duplicated that tract ( got to love that Toyota budget). That "horse paster" has only seen horsepower. it was all grown over with weeds since the earlier teams and our toys when you saw it. We get a lot of rain and they grow fast...plus 40 years ago it had cows pooping on it.