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Hog Wild
August 19th, 2006, 14:23
Here’s the list of Americans going to Dakar 2007, as best I know it. Also listed are two from Mexico and one form Canada. I may be missing one or two. If you know anything more or have corrections, please post some details.
---- MOTOS ----
Chris Blais * - KTM/Redbull (KTM) http://www.blaisracing.com DVR
Assistance - Team KTM/Redbull
Jonah Street * - Team Rally Pan America (KTM 525 custom) http://www.rallypanam.com DVR
Casey McCoy - Team Rally Pan America (KTM 525 custom) http://www.rallypanam.com DVR
Assistance - Rally Pan America (Ford F350 #1 (http://www.rallypanam.com/truckphotos.html)), Charlie Rauseo, Sid Milton, Niles Follin
Mike Krynock * - Team Rally Pan America “satellite rider” (KTM 525 custom) http://www.rallypanam.com DVR
Tim Hall - Team Heartland Dakar (KTM 525) http://www.heartland-dakar.com DVR
Dell Balfour – from Canada ( ) http://www.rallypanam.com/ridersDB.html DVR
Assistance - Rally Pan America (Ford F350 #2), Robb McElroy, Jim Radcliff
Elmer Symons - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (KTM) http://www.elmee.com DVR
James Embro * - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (KTM) http://www.sundaysocialclub.org DVR
Steve Laroza - Team JJE Constructors (KTM 625SXC) DVR
Chris Jones - Team JJE Constructors (KTM 625SXC) http://www.Dakar101.com DVR
Assistance - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (Ford F350), crew ???
Mike Kay - Team RallySoCal (Husqvarna TE 510) http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340380 DVR
Brian Schmuckle - Team RallySoCal (Husqvarna TE 510) DVR
Assistance – Team RallySoCal (Ford F350), Desmond Mc Donald
Paul Broome - (Honda XR650R) http://www.dakarpaul.com DVR
Assistance - Whatever tools and parts that fit in this box (after sleeping bag and tent) (http://www.dakarpaul.com/images/box_small.jpg)
Terry Curtis - Team Rally Raid Mexico (Yamaha) DVR
Sunny Irvine - Team Rally Raid Mexico (Yamaha) DVR
Assistance - Rally Raid Mexico (Ford F350), Ed Coyle, Ron Mac Rae, Leticia Diaz Rivera, Juan Francisco Diaz Rivera
---- CARS ----
Robby Gordon * / Andy Grider * – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #1) http://www.robbygordon.com
Driver? / Co-Driver? – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #2) http://www.robbygordon.com
Assistance T4 (on the course) - ?
Assistance T5 (off the course) - ?
Ronn Bailey * / K.H. * - Team Vanguard (custom buggy) http://www.ronnbaileymotorsports.com/rbm
Assistance - Team Vanguard
Mark Miller * / Ralph Pitchford * - Team Volkswagon (Volkswagon Touareg)
Assistance - Team Volkswagon
Darren Skilton * / ? ( ) DVR
Assistance - ?
---- OF INTEREST ----
It looks like five or so Ford F350 trucks will be shipped over as "assistance vehicles" (http://www.rallypanam.com/PhotosTruck/Truck12.JPG) for the motos. Each will likely have 4 crew, and will follow the race "off the course" on parallel roads and highways. These assistance crews go through a whole separate adventure you never get to see on TV. If you want to see Dakar first hand, but can't afford to race it, this is the way to go (http://www.rallypanam.com/PhotosTruck/Truck11.JPG) (~$15,000 to $20,000).
Who's got Dakar 2008 in their sights? Probably everyone above, plus a few others I'm aware of (Me * (http://www.HogWildRacing.com/) DVR, Jim Dizney DVR, Kevin Heath * (http://www.kevinsmidlifecrisis.com/), Dennis Sletton DVR). Anyone else?
Those with a star * competed in Dakar 2006.
All those with "DVR" plan to be training for Dakar together in September at the Death Valley Rally (http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20135).
FlyHiFlyLo7
August 19th, 2006, 14:40
Robby Gordon * / Andy Grider * – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #1) http://www.robbygordon.com
Driver? / Co-Driver? – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #2)
Not official to run 2nd Hummer. In fact Robby denied last week that there would be a second T-2...However, I know they are doing lots of Tunnel testing and Kaytech is still tweaking the engines, Last year's H-3 hasn't been in the tunnel so I don't what they are using for that they must have some sort of Chassis buck or another car.
Assistance T4 (on course) Billy Gasper/Tom "Turbo Tom" Geviss/?
Assistance T5 (off the course) - ?
bufeo
August 19th, 2006, 16:25
Thanks Scott (or is it Duane???)* for posting that list. Makes for easy reading and tracking. I've given it the old CtrlC and CtrlV in my '07 Dakar file.
Allen R
*Must be Scott since I saw the same post at ADVrider. :)
Chase 2
August 20th, 2006, 11:22
Robby Gordon * / Andy Grider * – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #1) http://www.robbygordon.com
Driver? / Co-Driver? – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #2)
Not official to run 2nd Hummer. In fact Robby denied last week that there would be a second T-2...However, I know they are doing lots of Tunnel testing and Kaytech is still tweaking the engines, Last year's H-3 hasn't been in the tunnel so I don't what they are using for that they must have some sort of Chassis buck or another car.
Assistance T4 (on course) Billy Gasper/Tom "Turbo Tom" Geviss/?
Assistance T5 (off the course) - ?
Finally he's starting to figure it out! This is a better effort than all the hype of last year (which would have gagged a maggot). A super reliable H-3 along (de-tuned) with a T4 on the course will help get RG to the finish line.
It'll be interesting to see how Andy goes from thinking/navigating for himself to being a co-dawg. MANY drivers/racers don't do well in the right-hand seat, it's a whole different breed that can navigate and read notes at speed. I wish him all the luck.
Next RG needs is to learn how to hold a team together without people getting fired or quitting in the dunes.
FlyHiFlyLo7
August 20th, 2006, 11:48
Finally he's starting to figure it out! This is a better effort than all the hype of last year (which would have gagged a maggot). A super reliable H-3 along (de-tuned) with a T4 on the course will help get RG to the finish line.
Next RG needs is to learn how to hold a team together without people getting fired or quitting in the dunes.
Yes... more constructive comments from the O'l Chase... Hype? You’re the expert, don't read the Hype. He raced last year and raced super well right out of the box. I can't wait to see how bad he destroys the field this year. What a huge difference 12 months will make. A lot of what try’s team cohesion is performance. When RG and Darren went down with that stub axle issue the pressure cooker started. Those that could compose themselves under pressure did, and those that couldn't get their butt kicked.
You think Team Dakar USA was pumped last year? They really have a shot this year. You can’t knock RG for getting out there last year. He gained valuable knowledge. And is now a ranked team. Robby was very stressed about just getting the FIA to approve his race car and he held back a bit on the design. Was he supposed to wait ? There is those who talk about doing, in Robby’s case… He is a doer.
I can’t think of anybody in Motorsports that works harder than Robby does. Sure he got a break when he was a teenager, but he sure seems to be made from what he has built on his own over the last 15 years. Christ RG is going to have 3 Cup Teams, a Busch team, a Dakar team, SCORE teams and CORR teams next year. All built from Robby’s persistence and vision… You can’t knock that. That is fact not hype.
scary fast hummer
August 20th, 2006, 20:02
It'll be interesting to see how Andy goes from thinking/navigating for himself to being a co-dawg. MANY drivers/racers don't do well in the right-hand seat, it's a whole different breed that can navigate and read notes at speed. I wish him all the luck.
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Well put! On this side of the pond it is the right hand seat that wins the races. Not bieng able to pre-run puts all the stress on the navigator. The drivers ability to shut up and listen-trust-act to the navigator is all important and if the two have chemistry that works between them, life is good. Without Stefan, my german navigator, I'd be sunk!
Chase 2
August 21st, 2006, 06:54
The fact that Andy was doing Dakar on a bike is a HUGE advantage as seen by most of the top drivers/nav guys. I have the utmost respect for the lead bike riders in the Dakar and Andy is one of them in my opinion. He is however, still unproven as a co-driver in a car. Dirk was RG's co-driver in the VW and they didn't get along, so it takes chemistry between the driver and co-diver even if both of them are good. BTW, I fully expect that Dirk will be in the podium with Gil this year.
FlyHiFlyLo7
August 21st, 2006, 10:36
I fully expect that Dirk will be in the podium with Gil this year.
So do I ... Right behind Robby
ShaneR
August 21st, 2006, 12:46
Ronn Baily will be at Dakar again this year also with full time people not a rented deal like he has done in the past.
Hog Wild
August 22nd, 2006, 09:31
Ronn Baily will be at Dakar again this year also with full time people not a rented deal like he has done in the past. Interesting! I just added him to the list above. Do you know who his co-driver is this time? Is his car being prepared here (Vegas?) or in France? Nice car prep photos on his website!
Does anyone know for sure if Mark Miller is indeed going to Dakar, and on Volkswagon team? I don't have any solid info on him.
Darren, can you fill in some details on your plans? Are you really going? Who's your co-driver? Did I miss anyone in the list above?
ShaneR
August 22nd, 2006, 10:00
Not sure who the co-driver will be for Ronn? They have a couple full time guys that would all be great guys in the car, I will ask. The car is being prepped in Vegas, actually his shop is in Boulder City just outside of Vegas.
Hog Wild
August 22nd, 2006, 12:59
Not sure who the co-driver will be for Ronn? They have a couple full time guys that would all be great guys in the car, I will ask.I just got a call from Ronn's new co-driver, but I can't leak the name yeat.
As Klaus just posted, we now have the details for Mark Miller:
http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21229
zipperhead
August 23rd, 2006, 13:57
GRIDER W/ RG....HELYEAH!! Nice work Andy, lets see you two smoke the rest!
Icewalker
October 13th, 2006, 08:10
Any idea why Andy made the switch from Moto's to cars ?
bufeo
October 13th, 2006, 08:53
Only Andy will be able to answer that question fully, but I suspect that he is thinking that "the time is right".
Allen R
Icewalker
October 13th, 2006, 10:32
Thanks Allen - Best of luck to Andy - I was following his progress last year with anticipation. Wish I had 1/100th of the talent he has on a bike.
Jeff
Hog Wild
November 16th, 2006, 11:58
Further details about Dakar 2007 were posted on the dakar.com website today. The route details can be seen here (http://www.dakar.com/2007/DAK/presentation/us/r3_5-le-parcours.html). And the entry lists here (http://www.dakar.com/2007/DAK/presentation/us/r3_8-engages.html).
As far as the Americans go, the entry list is missing Mike Krynock - Team Rally Panam (I don't know why), and there is a new addition to the car category, Michael Petersen. Details about Petersen are in a story here (http://www.crash.net/news_View~t~Dakar--Petersen-White-Lightning-to-run-SMG-Buggy-~cid~26~id~140216.htm). Also, Darren Skilton is entered as a primary driver in the T4 (truck) category, apparently in support of Michael Petersen.
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Here’s the UPDATED list of Americans going to Dakar 2007, as best I know it. Also listed are two from Mexico. If you know anything more or have corrections, please post some details.
---- MOTOS ----
Chris Blais * - KTM/Redbull (KTM) http://www.blaisracing.com DVR
Assistance - Team KTM/Redbull
Jonah Street * - Team Rally Pan America (KTM 525 custom) http://www.rallypanam.com DVR
Casey McCoy - Team Rally Pan America (KTM 525 custom) http://www.rallypanam.com DVR
Assistance - Rally Pan America (Ford F350 #1 (http://www.rallypanam.com/truckphotos.html)), Robb McElroy DVR, Sid Milton, Niles Follin DVR
Tim Hall - Team Heartland Dakar (KTM 525) http://www.heartland-dakar.com DVR
Assistance - Rally Pan America (Ford F350 #2), Charlie Rauseo*DVR, Jim RadcliffDVR
Elmer Symons - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (KTM) http://www.elmee.com DVR
James Embro * - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (KTM) http://www.sundaysocialclub.org DVR
Steve Laroza - Team JJE Constructors (KTM 625SXC) DVR
Chris Jones - Team JJE Constructors (KTM 625SXC) http://www.Dakar101.com DVR
Assistance - Team SSC/JJE Constructors (Ford F350), crew ???
Mike Kay - Team RallySoCal (Husqvarna TE 510) RallySoCal.com (http://www.RallySoCal.com/) DVR
Brian Schmuckle - Team RallySoCal (Husqvarna TE 510) RallySoCal.com/ (http://www.RallySoCal.com/) DVR
Assistance – Team RallySoCal (Ford F350), Desmond Mc Donald DVR
Paul Broome - (Honda XR650R) http://www.dakarpaul.com
Assistance - Tires on Team Pan America truck, and whatever tools and parts that fit in this box (http://www.dakarpaul.com/images/box_small.jpg) (after sleeping bag and tent).
Terry Curtis - Team Rally Raid Mexico (Yamaha) DVR
Sunny Irvine - Team Rally Raid Mexico (Yamaha) DVR
Assistance - Rally Raid Mexico (Ford F350), Ed Coyle DVR[/COLOR], Ron Mac Rae, Leticia Diaz Rivera DVR[/COLOR], Juan Francisco Diaz Rivera DVR[/COLOR]
---- CARS ----
Robby Gordon * / Andy Grider *DVR – Team USA Dakar (Hummer H3 #1) http://www.robbygordon.com
Assistance T4 (on the course) - Tom Geviss / Paul Mischel
Assistance T5 (off the course) - ?
Ronn Bailey * / Kevin Heath * - Team Vanguard (custom buggy) DVR http://www.ronnbaileymotorsports.com/rbm
Assistance T4 - Team Vanguard
Assistance T5 - Team Vanguard (Ford F350)
Mark Miller * / Ralph Pitchford * - Team Volkswagon (Volkswagon Touareg)
Assistance - Team Volkswagon
Michael Petersen / Matthew Stevenson - SMG Buggy (http://www.crash.net/news_View~t~Dakar--Petersen-White-Lightning-to-run-SMG-Buggy-~cid~26~id~140216.htm)
---- TRUCKS ----
Darren Skilton * DVR / Jose Grijalva / Hector Camacho - T4 Assistance Truck
---- OF INTEREST ----
It looks like six Ford F350 trucks will be shipped over as "assistance vehicles" (http://www.rallypanam.com/PhotosTruck/Truck12.JPG). Each will likely have 4 crew, and will follow the race "off the course" on parallel roads and highways. These assistance crews go through a whole separate adventure you never get to see on TV. If you want to see Dakar first hand, but can't afford to race it, this is the way to go (http://www.rallypanam.com/PhotosTruck/Truck11.JPG) (~$15,000 to $20,000).
Who's got Dakar 2008 in their sights? Probably everyone above, plus a few others I'm aware of (Me * (http://www.HogWildRacing.com/) DVR, Jim Dizney DVR, Dennis Sletton DVR, Mike Krynock*). Anyone else?
Those with a star * competed in Dakar 2006.
All those with "DVR" trained for Dakar together in September at the Death Valley Rally (http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20135).
TreyP
December 11th, 2006, 21:23
---- OF INTEREST ----
It looks like five or so Ford F350 trucks will be shipped over as "assistance vehicles" for the motos. Each will likely have 4 crew, and will follow the race "off the course" on parallel roads and highways. These assistance crews go through a whole separate adventure you never get to see on TV. If you want to see Dakar first hand, but can't afford to race it, this is the way to go (~$15,000 to $20,000).
Now that would be an adventure to write home about. How do I sign up for that crew?
Hog Wild
December 11th, 2006, 23:30
Now that would be an adventure to write home about. How do I sign up for that crew?Call one of the teams listed above, ask if there's a seat available in their assistance truck, and lay out a load of cash for the seat plus the entry fee. Here's a few details:
http://www.rallypanam.com/servicesassistance.html
It's way too late for Dakar 2007. Check with them in February when they've got the Sahara sand out of their boots. They'll start planning for Dakar 2008 the moment they get back.
TROPHYSEDAN
December 12th, 2006, 11:16
I wish i was going this year. Maybe next year. Trying to work some dills for next year. Best of luck to Charlie and the rest of the crew. Scott you going with Charlie. Best of luck to all our teams over there. Dennis
Hog Wild
December 12th, 2006, 13:13
Scott you going with Charlie.Nope, this year I'm riding the Magnavox, without crew.
cmorley
December 17th, 2006, 11:07
Check out www.petersenmotorsports.com
More info regarding Dakar
Chase 2
December 17th, 2006, 13:34
It is really good yet another strong American team go to the Dakar. Will another American team beat RG to the podium???? Quite possibly, these guys are more about results than hype.
FlyHiFlyLo7
December 19th, 2006, 20:24
It is really good yet another strong American team go to the Dakar. Will another American team beat RG to the podium???? Quite possibly, these guys are more about results than hype.
Chase here is a few things you need to know from the Dakar rule book just if you ever decide to run The Dakar.
D - Exclusions
D.1 - No assistance services will be provided for a bodily injury or death resulting from:
◆ an intentional act on the part of the beneficiary,
◆ taking part in bets, brawls or fights,
◆ if the pathological state is not urgent,
◆ nervous illnesses, nervous depression, mental illness,
◆ the use by the beneficiary of medicines, drugs, tranquillisers and / or products taken and not prescribed medically,
◆ a drunken state characterised by the presence in the blood of a level of pure alcohol equal to or superior to the limit fixed by French law in vigour at the time of the accident,
◆ suicide or attempted suicide.
D.2 - Are never covered:
◆ costs of medical equipment, prosthesis,
◆ the costs of any type of cure,
◆ treatment of an aesthetic nature,
◆ costs of physiotherapy or a chiropractor,
◆ costs of vaccines and cost of vaccination,
◆ the costs of medical services or paramedical services or the cost of purchase of products whose therapeutic benefits are not recognised by French law,
◆ costs of the definitive coffin :eek: ,
◆ customs expenses.
RacerX1
December 22nd, 2006, 08:52
I just want to say BEST OF LUCK to all of our American Heroes that are tackling this huge feat! I know many of you are packing up and getting ready as we speak. My husband leaves on Dec 31st and is more than excited to get going... again! We have a lot of friends that are racing on bikes for the first time ever. Their goal is to finish! I know there are a few already having logistical issues with getting their equipment through customs, etc. Hopefully everything will fall into place, and quickly.
God be with all of you - the racers, chasers, everyone involved.
Have a great RIDE!!! :D
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