single buggy roll cages

[Rocket 450]

Ive looked and looked, I saw the minuium DOM tubing saw the door bar spec . My question is does the main cage have to be 1 3/4 or 1 1/2 or can a chromemoly car use differnet tubing than a DOM car

thanks

[Volkspower Racing]

It says in the rules under Roll Bars, section k, Minimum tube diameter for all buggy divisions is 1 1/2 by .090 wall, Round steel seamless or D.O.M. Hope that helps

[Rocket 450]

Rodger that thanks.


Now is a older 1 3/4 chassis too heavy? too old? too much effort? Or can it be adapted to work?

[Volkspower Racing]

My car is an ex desert car that weighs 1780 with me in it, I've won 1 round, 2nd in 2 and a 9th. So a heavy car seems to work ok so far!

[Rocket 450]

Thanks , for the quick reply I do understand chassis just one peice of the puzzle. And with quality componets surrounding that chassis it would seem to work ok. But then again I was circle tracker

[MGERALD195]

My car is an ex desert car that weighs 1780 with me in it, I've won 1 round, 2nd in 2 and a 9th. So a heavy car seems to work ok so far

In the mid west all the top cars are dead nut on the weight, infact all of our single and light buggys we add weight to get our weight % right on the nuts. a single buggy weighs 1580 and I know Mike Seefeldt Mark Stienhardt and John Fitzgerald are exactly 1580 at the end of the race. Every ounce counts in my opinion.

[Volkspower Racing]

I agree on weight to a point, but if thats all you have and you want to try and race that take a chance and see how it goes. So far its worked well for me. Now the new car that I'm building for next season will be much lighter, hopfully it will work as well as the sled I'm driving now. Hopfully I wont get spanked to hard at Crandon Labor Day.

[Rocket 450]

Volkspower thats the additude to have. After looking around and seeing some the 16 cars around I may still have to bring the old tank out. I do understand that weight and weight %,s mean a big deal. But coming in last is still better than hanging out at the shop crying the blues about someone else equipment.JMHO

[racerkid]

Weight is a big issue. I have a 2 seat desert car that I race in CORR and it is 1830lbs. with me in the car. I guess I need to go on a diet, ha,ha. I got 3rd both days in the May CORR race, but got killed in the July weekend getting 8th (Sat) and 7th (Sun). I am currently putting together a new light single seater that I hope will be ready for Sept. I think it was more evenly matched when the desert cars ran dualports and short course cars ran singleports. But now that any car can run a dualport weight is huge. Just my 2 cents.

[Rocket 450]

Step one make sure the car's not bent
step two build a jig and tack the old hot rod down
step three bust out the sawzall and go to town
step four Hope every thing works out
step five buy a new chassis

Im I getting close or still way off.

[MGERALD195]

what? they all can run dual ports now?

[Volkspower Racing]

Yea, for now. I heard that there will be a rule change soon. It hasnt made a real differance, all wins out here have been with single ports so far.
Cant wait to see the new ride Kevin.

[napaman]

Dual ports won't help you with the shortcourse only a shortcourse chassis will help you kevin. If you look at lap times all the fast times are on shortcourse cars with single port. Look at jeff's mirage tank. He was rippin some fast lap times both during the race and during practice. It turns on a dime ok maybe a quarter. Can't wait til we go to crandon and get spanked by the experts on the shortcourse setup. At least Jeff will get spanked.:D

[MGERALD195]

That's interesting about that rule change, we haven't heard any thing about that. I wonder if thats just a CORR Cali rule? Do you guys know?

[Volkspower Racing]

I heard there will be some sort of new rule before the next Chula Vista race on the Dual Ports.

[Volkspower Racing]

Dual ports won't help you with the shortcourse only a shortcourse chassis will help you kevin. If you look at lap times all the fast times are on shortcourse cars with single port. Look at jeff's mirage tank. He was rippin some fast lap times both during the race and during practice. It turns on a dime ok maybe a quarter. Can't wait til we go to crandon and get spanked by the experts on the shortcourse setup. At least Jeff will get spanked.:D

Ok Rookie, we will see. How did you do the last time you raced Crandon?

[racerkid]

I do agree as far as the length. My desert car it 120" wheelbase. My newer ride will be probably around 100" wheelbase. Troy, you are right both wins were taken by single ports. You passed me on Sunday like I had an anchor dragging behind. Good race. I guess we are tied for 3rd in points, next 2 weekend should be fun.

[racerkid]

PS. Troy and Jeff, you guys didn't stick around for the after race margaritas. What's up with that? I will make sure I bring the margarita machine out next race weekend in Chula Vista.

[Volkspower Racing]

PS. Troy and Jeff, you guys didn't stick around for the after race margaritas. What's up with that? I will make sure I bring the margarita machine out next race weekend in Chula Vista.

Well you should have let us know about that.

[Volkspower Racing]

I do agree as far as the length. My desert car it 120" wheelbase. My newer ride will be probably around 100" wheelbase. Troy, you are right both wins were taken by single ports. You passed me on Sunday like I had an anchor dragging behind. Good race. I guess we are tied for 3rd in points, next 2 weekend should be fun.

Must have been that Volkspower Horsepower!
Looks like Kevin Graves will be the odd man out with his desert car. He's going to have to find somthing shorter also!

[napaman]

hey kevin sorry about the no show I had to get my father to the airport by 5 and then we had a lovely 6 hour drive home. definitely next time we are going to dry up the margy machine.

[kevin bedrock graves]

hey guys, kevin thanks for the margi's. sorry we missed you. dont they say bigger is better. oh and by the way my station wagon works good. can't wait for sept. terribles cup was so much fun. had some bad luck( thanks to dave caspino) slashed tire while i was in the lead in the second heat race. brian freeman did an outstanding job, props too him. I'm finally getting back in the groove. as far as smaller car i'm going to move up to super buggie. so if you see any good deals let me know. thanks guys

[napaman]

Hey bedrock good luck with the super buggies. The motor expense is enough to keep me out of it.

[racerkid]

Well you should have let us know about that.

Sorry, I told Troy at the starting line on Sunday and I thought he would of told you since you guys were camping together. Next time :)

[Volkspower Racing]

Sorry, I told Troy at the starting line on Sunday and I thought he would of told you since you guys were camping together. Next time :)

Troy doesnt tell me anything. Some teamate, huh!

[napaman]

Troy doesnt tell me anything. Some teamate, huh!


I try to keep Jeff away from the Margarita Mix just before we drive home because he is a big lush and he gets real loopy. Ha Ha Ha :)

[Volkspower Racing]

I try to keep Jeff away from the Margarita Mix just before we drive home because he is a big lush and he gets real loopy. Ha Ha Ha :)

Somebodys calling the kettle black!

[kevin bedrock graves]

I wish i had a teammate. hey kevin do want to be teammates,maybe we could be " SHAKE AND BAKE" or EL DIABLO AND THE MAGIC MAN, but I get to be first everytime.

[napaman]

I wish i had a teammate.


Hey Kevin we are building my wife a car. You could be her teammate. HA HA:D

[kevin bedrock graves]

hey troy, but does she have free margaritas

[napaman]

hey troy, but does she have free margaritas

Oh man I'm afraid not. She will have to be Jeff's teammate and I'll be yours

[kevin bedrock graves]

sounds good i'll have the tri tip on the barbi.:D

[Volkspower Racing]

Oh man I'm afraid not. She will have to be Jeff's teammate and I'll be yours

Guess I'm going from one girl teamate to another, oh well, at least the new one is better looking!

[Volkspower Racing]

I wish i had a teammate. hey kevin do want to be teammates,maybe we could be " SHAKE AND BAKE" or EL DIABLO AND THE MAGIC MAN, but I get to be first everytime.

Thats not nice Kevin, at least Troy and I take turns winning races!

[kevin bedrock graves]

:D hey jeff go see talledaga nights!

[napaman]

:D hey jeff go see talledaga nights!

Hey kevin didn't you know Jeff was the stunt stand in for will ferrell. Or was it it the wife that he was a stunt stand in. He will tell you and give a autographed picture:D

[Volkspower Racing]

:D hey jeff go see talledaga nights!

Im going to try, I just have a million things to do, hopfully I can find time!

[Volkspower Racing]

Hey kevin didn't you know Jeff was the stunt stand in for will ferrell. Or was it it the wife that he was a stunt stand in. He will tell you and give a autographed picture:D

Funny Man, well off to the shop to do some fab work on my EX-Teamates car! Mad Max here we come.:D :D