New Class 1 Car in progress

[Dunebuggy.com]

Thought you folks may like to see a few "in progress" pics of our new class one. We are getting closer and closer each day.. just need a few more parts to the puzzle.. and a few more late nights.


Here are a few pics. keep in mind the chassis is not complete in these pictures and the final pass on most of the welds has not been done yet.
Here is the car http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2/

[ASHCRAFT]

Awsome car. Plate work looks great. Cant wait to see some more pics.

[outtacontrazy]

who is the brake pedal assembly made by?

[Dunebuggy.com]

who is the brake pedal assembly made by?


The pedals are from Tilton
http://tiltonracing.com/content.php?page=list2&id=400&m=b

They do not include the masters or the cool resivoir.. very nice though if you are willing to get spendy.

Chuck

[partybarge_pilot]

I like the adjustable ratio on the pedals.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Who did all the design-work? I really like the cage layou around the dash and A-pillar.

[Brad Falin]

When do you think the debut race will be? You guys are a lot of fun to race against,See you at Midnight Race, I love the car nice and simple so far:p

[Dunebuggy.com]

When do you think the debut race will be? You guys are a lot of fun to race against,See you at Midnight Race, I love the car nice and simple so far:p

Thanks Brad.

Well a few months ago were hoping to race the car@ Primm but reality is we wont make that one but maybe something shortly after. The car should be done enough to show it @ Primm.. Maybe even test a bit.

See ya @ The Midnight for sure! I am blind @ night but oh well,

JESSE_at_TLT.. I really like the cage as well.. looks better in real life for sure. cant wait to start the body here in a week or so.

Chuck

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Whoever designed that deserves a pat on the back. The whole thing looks really well thought out and everything is nicely packaged.

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Maybe not a "winning car" as of yet but maybe your buddy can keep an eye out
as this one.. it is pretty close to gettin in the dirt for testing.


Chassis
100% Solid works modeled (including almost every part on the car)
100% lazer cut (for quick repeatability and accuracy)
- Unique structural chassis design. (more pics later)
- Impeccable Hydroformed aluminum work and a fiberglass body option
Chassis structure allows 2-3-4 seats and Truck version.
Base structure is great for rollers due to the fact you can change up the tubes to look any way you like,


Also look a full custom truck body designed by us to fit this car to perfection with no additional mounting (late January)

- All aluminum custom motor plate designed for Quick changing of the motor and tranny
which allows a complete motor tranny change in less than 1 hour.

- 100% 12pt aircraft bolts throughout the entire car.
- Custom bolt on spindles
- Weight ratio estimated 55% 45%
- 100% score legal for new 2006 rules


Suspension and Steering
- 28 front 24 rear (true travel)
- Carries 3inch or 4 inch shocks front or rear without modifications
- Dunebuggy.com`s in house series 30 rear hubs (934 optional) 6x6.5 featuring double boot setup
- Dunebuggy.com`s in house front hubs Unique in design to the industry - featuring the same bearings as the rear series 30



- HM engineering trophy truck size uniballs and rod ends.
- Custom machined pivot tubes sleeves and bushings.
- Custom steering rack with longer throw for better turning and leverage handling
- Truggy power steering and control valve
- Custom 7075 machined tie rods with modified rod ends
- All stainless power steering lines

Electrical and Lighting
- 2 optima batteries strategically placed
- Complete state of the art wiring with full in reach breaker control panel
- Integrated hid lights into the hood with high low capability
- 5 big HID’s on the roof with push button adjustability



Audio, Video and Communications Devices
- Dual race cams (front and rear)
- Stack state of the art PCMCIA card video recording device (no moving parts) with integrated IriTrack GPS tracking system mounting.
- 7500 big screen Lowrance high res GPS
- 100watt Kenwood race radio with built in repeater
- New to the market intercom system with auto noise leveling system and radio isolator switch.
- Sat phone integrated into the intercom.


Motor
- Built LS7 (specs not disclosed but its a good one)
- Stainless steel headers
- Peterson sump tank
- Peterson fuel filters
- Dual 230 amp alternators for maximum power and redundancy
- Tilton starter
- 50" cooling system with integrated heat exchangers and 2 4500 cfm fans integrated in to the chassis.
Wiggins clamps throughout


Transmission
- Albin 5 speed sequential (series 30 cv`s)
- Albins Billet sequential shifter with integrated “no lift shift” and LED shift indicator.
- Tilton 4 disk racing clutch


Fuel System
- 87.5 gallon fuel capacity fuel cell with redundant fuel pumps dual fillers on each side (Race car version)


Wheels and Tires
-

2 spares (race version)

- 37 inch tires.


Brakes
- Brembo mono block racing calipers.
- Brembo 14" rotors
- Tilton`s state of the art billet racing pedals.
- All stainless steel brake lines power steering lines and Parker Pumper lines with Wiggins clamps



Cockpit
- Roomy cockpit - 52” wide
- Collapsible race steering for both safety and adjustability in and out
- Race inspired/custom tilt option designed to dial in the driver comfort zone.
- Sparco seats (car can fit small seats all the way to the evo XL)
- Adjustable sliders and mounts provide up, down and tilt seat adjustments
- Teamtech seat belts
- Teamtech window nets
- Datcon Guages
- Enclosed padded storage under each seat with missle latch access for tools and such
- All stainless Parker Pumper lines

The car is quite a bit further along than the picture and there is
way too much to list @ the moment and we are holding back some til we unveil it officially.. but there are tons of details we will disclose soon if you are super serious
I will gladly give a preview in person.

Chuck

Keep in mind when looking @ these pictures that all of the tubes and supported plates are not in yet but will be in soon.
More pics soon...
I just remembered that you posted some information and a few pictures of this in Billy Manfroy's thread about finding a Class 1 car. So this is going into some type of limited production? Let us know when more details are available.

[Dunebuggy.com]

I just remembered that you posted some information and a few pictures of this in Billy Manfroy's thread about finding a Class 1 car. So this is going into some type of limited production? Let us know when more details are available.


Yes Jesse we have designed the car with the plan to produce them .. We did a ton of CAD work so the repeatability is quick and accurate each time. Just need to finish this one up and go testing and see.

For those that would like to follow this build I will update the galleries each week with new progress pictures.. gonna be a busy month for sure so stay tuned.
http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2/

CHUCK

[Superfab]

Looks nice. Plenty of feet of welding to stick all that plate together. Any clues as to final weight?

[Dunebuggy.com]

Looks nice. Plenty of feet of welding to stick all that plate together. Any clues as to final weight?

The new scales came in and we will start playing with them this week I think the car will be much lighter than it looks.

Chuck

[JESSE_at_TLT]

Any progress/updates?

[AzBajaman]

Really nice car looks great..........Would you post some pictures of this car when it's done would like to see it when it's completed........

[Outcast]

I like the backbone concept and monoque work. Looks like allot of thought went into that.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Any progress/updates?

The car is coming along great! Lots of progress..

Waiting on the motorplate (see attached) so we can install the motor and plumb the car stuff like that.
The 85 gallon fuel cell just arrived today as well.

I will update some pictures next week.

Chuck

[J_Lothringer]

Wow Chuck!!! looks like your boys over there have stepped things up a little with your new car...............Looks great cant wait to see it in person.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Thanks Jeff. Definitely a big step up.
I Plan on posting some updates on Saturday.. Just been super busy,

same link.. http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2/

[Dunebuggy.com]

Really nice car looks great..........Would you post some pictures of this car when it's done would like to see it when it's completed........

Here are a few pics of recent parts..

MOTORPLATE (hard to see all the detail with the anodizing)
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/224-11.jpg

Bolt on spindle
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/224-12.jpg

Albin sequential shifter with custom boot.
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/225-3.jpg

Our own version of a sparco seat mount
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/225-2.jpg

Breaker/switch box for co-driver
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/225-1.jpg

A few welds
http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/225-4.jpg

Our in house front hubs
http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/224-9.jpg

Modular Dash in progress
http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/225-5.jpg

[D.Mavis]

Your car looks great. What kind of coating is on the spindles and brackets, is it a black wrinkle powdercoat or just paint?

[Dunebuggy.com]

The coating is called "tool black" works great!
I posted a few more pics here (http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2)

[Dan McMillin]

Who will be the driver and when will the first race be?

[Dunebuggy.com]

Who will be the driver and when will the first race be?

Not sure on either question Dan... Just need to get out and test first and see how things go.

[5racer]

that is one work of art it needs to be on display some where or in a game room .theres is some kind of mentel problem with us desert racers have. for someone to take something so nice with 1000 and 1000 of man hours and wont even ask how much money and build a car like that and then destroy in the desert .and we all think drugs are bad lol .this offroad racing is one powerfull drug.i get a hard on everytime you post new pics of your car .great job.

[Dunebuggy.com]

that is one work of art it needs to be on display some where or in a game room .theres is some kind of mentel problem with us desert racers have. for someone to take something so nice with 1000 and 1000 of man hours and wont even ask how much money and build a car like that and then destroy in the desert .and we all think drugs are bad lol .this offroad racing is one powerfull drug.i get a hard on everytime you post new pics of your car .great job.


Thanks steve.. The desert is my game room...cant wait to take it out and play some.. since ya like pictures I made you a collage of a few.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/222-1.jpg

[E&S Racing]

Car looks great. Almost as good as our HMS Avenger (Just Kidding) It looks absolutely awesome. The welds look SICK. Thx for all the updated photos that you have posted.

[GlamisGurlie]

that is one work of art it needs to be on display some where or in a game room .

I think Chuck should put one in a casino here (can you say SouthCoast :D :D ) in Vegas as a "WIN ME!!" give-away (gamble away haha) over one of the slot banks or ??? like OCC and other Harley shops do ;)

[Dunebuggy.com]

I think Chuck should put one in a casino here (can you say SouthCoast :D :D ) in Vegas as a "WIN ME!!" give-away (gamble away haha) over one of the slot banks or ??? like OCC and other Harley shops do ;)

Always thinkin eh Jamie :) Not a bad idea but I think I need to be the owner of the slot machine ;)

[Dunebuggy.com]

Getting this 85 gallon cell in was fun.. the computer said it would go in with all the tubes already in but failed to mention it would be by less than an inch. it was a fun challenge for sure!

(may look crooked but it just isnt strapped down)
http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2/images/DSC09179.jpg.jpg

[younggunracer]

Keep up the great work. Cars like this one is why our sport has the most amazing vehicles in all auto racing.

[5racer]

Getting this 85 gallon cell in was fun.. the computer said it would go in with all the tubes already in but failed to mention it would be by less than an inch. it was a fun challenge for sure!

(may look crooked but it just isnt strapped down)
http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcar2/images/DSC09179.jpg.jpg

i can see it now 4 guys scratching there heads saying blank blank blank computters lol joe go get the bfh this will fit lol.thanks for pics chuck

[Dunebuggy.com]

i can see it now 4 guys scratching there heads saying blank blank blank computters lol joe go get the bfh this will fit lol.thanks for pics chuck

Yeah it definitely took all 4 guys to get that one in.. looking @ it you would swear it would never go in.

More pics later in the week after Mcabe works his magic on the TRI-Y headers

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/222-1.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

Here is some progress on the wiring. "smitty rocks"

This is the main switch/breakerbox that sits directly in front of the co-driver.

A motec dash is also planned for the co-driver side and a custom motec steering wheel with 6 buttons for the driver.

http://dunebuggy.com/extras/wireracecar/wire1.JPG


(The tape is temporary of course)
http://dunebuggy.com/extras/wireracecar/wire2.JPG

[Dunebuggy.com]

Hope everyone is having a good time @ Primm.. we really wanted to go but decided to make more progress on the car instead and also the headers are scheduled for Sunday.

For those following this build I will post a few more of this weekends progress.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/227-1.jpg

[5racer]

aircraft quality wireing for sure looks great ,and i dont know whats cleaner the car or your shop ..

[Negrete 5-1600]

Chuck, I saw two of your Class 1's last year at PRIMM last year. Really nice race cars you're building out there.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Chuck, I saw two of your Class 1's last year at PRIMM last year. Really nice race cars you're building out there.

Thanks Archie

Those cars were just prerunners but we raced them occasionally.

On another note here is a live shot of one of the shopcams of the new car in progress... lots of progress today.. tommorow headers get made and axles on and some misc stuff.

Camera refreshes every few minutes.. more cameras on my site.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/camera2.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

Just a quick update...

A few toys for the car came in today!

Motec Wheel..
http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-1.jpg

Motec Dash..
http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-2.jpg

Headers are awesome..(will post tommorow)

[Dan McMillin]

WOW. Car looks awesome! I love the digitial screen on the steering wheel. Is that a GPS or just MPH/RPM Gage?

[Dunebuggy.com]

WOW. Car looks awesome! I love the digitial screen on the steering wheel. Is that a GPS or just MPH/RPM Gage?

Dan that is a Motec steering wheel that can works in tandem with the Motec dash on the co-driver side. It can display anything from speed... sensor data or even a gear indicator. it just all depends on how you program it.

Pretty cool stuff for sure.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-2.jpg

[Dan McMillin]

Dan that is a Motec steering wheel that can works in tandem with the Motec dash on the co-driver side. It can display anything from speed... sensor data or even a gear indicator. it just all depends on how you program it.

Pretty cool stuff for sure.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-2.jpg

Very cool! Thanks for sharing!!!

[5racer]

are you sure your a 100% possative that you want to get this car dirty .nice looking eletrical work .looks like f-1 steering wheel almost .more pics pls

[Dunebuggy.com]

are you sure your a 100% possative that you want to get this car dirty .nice looking eletrical work .looks like f-1 steering wheel almost .more pics pls

Not getting this car dirty would be like keepng an F1 car off the track.. a true crime for sure.

I will put up more pictures soon.. we start the body next week.. gonna be very nice!!! Stay Tuned...

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/222-1.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

Looks nice. Plenty of feet of welding to stick all that plate together. Any clues as to final weight?

Tim

We finally put the car on the scales with everything we could possibly think of air tanks..
2 37" spares both batteries air jack lights etc.. and we were 3840 with a 60% 40% front/rear weigh ratio.. with fuel that should add some more front and be very close to 55/45.

[winnim racing]

Chuck,

I must say that you have created a piece of ART.

Looks great.

[Scott_F]

I just saw this car Friday at the Sand Show and it is very impressive in person. It was worth the price of admission.

[Dez_Annihilation]

saw the car yesterday at the sand show and it looks awesome really nice piece of work and the $10 for the sand show are well worth the price i think!!!

[outtacontrazy]

the car is a amazing, the littel details and things though out ahead like the hardlined parker pumper between the seats and dzus tabs laser cut into the bulkhead plating, cant wait to see it run.

[Dunebuggy.com]

the car is a amazing, the littel details and things though out ahead like the hardlined parker pumper between the seats and dzus tabs laser cut into the bulkhead plating, cant wait to see it run.

Thank you.

I was happy to see so much positive response on our car @ the show, We hope to find some last minute space for the offroad show in a few weeks and show it there as well.

Nice meeting some of the people that frequent this board, some great people for sure.

[5racer]

Thank you.

I was happy to see so much positive response on our car @ the show, We hope to find some last minute space for the offroad show in a few weeks and show it there as well.

Nice meeting some of the people that frequent this board, some great people for sure.


outstanding job on car could look at it for hours you diffently should pat your self on back .thanks for shareing this art work with us .

[bcampbell04]

any idea when it will be complete or first race??

[Johnny]

Chuck@
Dunebuggy.com

Hi, Chuck. The wiring job that guy did for you is good work. May I ask who did the job ? I'm a tech myself. That technique looks very much like aircraft standards. The push/pull breakers you have are definately aero and not auto industry.

I'm curiuos, why would you go with a push/pull breaker instead of the much cheaper version of a push to reset style? Do you need to be able to pull breakers for safety issues duing a pit ?

BTW, your team is out of AZ correct?

-Johnny
SoCal

[AzBajaman]

the car is a amazing, the littel details and things though out ahead like the hardlined parker pumper between the seats and dzus tabs laser cut into the bulkhead plating, cant wait to see it run.

Wow.....is all i can say...........really sweet car.......

[Dunebuggy.com]

Chuck@
Dunebuggy.com

Hi, Chuck. The wiring job that guy did for you is good work. May I ask who did the job ? I'm a tech myself. That technique looks very much like aircraft standards. The push/pull breakers you have are definately aero and not auto industry.

I'm curiuos, why would you go with a push/pull breaker instead of the much cheaper version of a push to reset style? Do you need to be able to pull breakers for safety issues duing a pit ?

BTW, your team is out of AZ correct?

-Johnny
SoCal

Hey Johnny

Yes we are in AZ

Our wiring is done by Gerald from Finish line in Phx.
The push pull is by preference as well as it allows us to kill a breaker when we want (like kill a fan or shut something down if we want for whatever reason without having to wire in another switch to do the same job.

[Dunebuggy.com]

any idea when it will be complete or first race??

Well we started the bodywork today and have some other details to finish up and we can go testing.. Not sure exactly when the first race will be but should be testing in about 6 weeks or so.

I will post pictures of the bodywork in progress.. (It is going to be really impressive)

[Dunebuggy.com]

Here is a quick pic of the aluminum "in progress" on our new .. class one car.

The bumper will change when the hood is finished
Lots of finish work left but gettin pretty close.

More pics as we get closer.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-9.jpg

[negro3030]

wow, that looks mean...

[Dunebuggy.com]

This one is a bit brighter..

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-10.jpg

[woundedyak]

Are those head lights just for mock up? or are you going to run those? I might be new,but I can't see those things lasting to long!

[Dunebuggy.com]

We designed a cradle for them for extreme abuse so they should do ok..

We have run these lights pretty hard for a few years now on 20 or so cars and they actually hold up pretty well under some pretty harsh conditions.. they are HID and put out a ton of light too.

The body will be available in glass or aluminum also with or without the lights for those that choose not to run them.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-9.jpg

[Sheaco]

Who's Doing the tin work?

[NIKAL]

The car looks great! I like the lines of the body too. I was just going to asked if the hood and panels will be in offered in fiberglass. Fiberglass will cut the cost a ton and should not get as beat up.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Are those head lights just for mock up? or are you going to run those? I might be new,but I can't see those things lasting to long!

Back to the light question.

Here is the "unfinished" light assembly I was talking about.. it allows quick easy removal of the headlights if needed and also offers good support as well as a perfect light alignment every time.

The finished product will be very nice once we finish it.. anno it and put in all the nice aircraft rivots and such.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-8.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-11.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

Another side shot.
Still missing some details like foot step etc..

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/228-12.jpg

[crazydna]

Thumbs up!! Very nice craftmantship..
What's the price range?

[Dunebuggy.com]

Thumbs up!! Very nice craftmantship..
What's the price range?

Not sure yet.. we have been adding all the parts and such into the computer but havent actually crunched the #'s yet.

We start the next car in a few weeks and will know more then what impact 8 months of cad work shaves off the labor costs and actual build time.

I am sure we will be competitive.

[younggunracer]

Well the car looks great Hell I would pay alot for that car! Unfortenetly I dont have alot of anything to offer!

[bcampbell04]

sweet looking body. i love it

[Dunebuggy.com]

Gettin pretty close! About a week away from finishing up the aluminum .. then another week or two to finish up some small fab stuff..nets... misc

Gonna be a nice xmas!!!

Here are a few more teaser pics til we can get a good photo shoot done.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-2.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-1.jpg

More real soon!

[E&S Racing]

Looks good guys

[Paul Jacobs]

When is the next chance to see this, up close and personel?

[Dunebuggy.com]

The car can be seen anytime in phx or we will be @ Laughlin (not racing just showing).

[Go Poly]

The car can be seen anytime in phx or we will be @ Laughlin (not racing just showing).

I'm a newbie to this board and perhaps these questions have already been asked: how much of your design is layed out on the computer? What software do you use? Do you do any structural analysis and/or dynamic simulations of the suspension to optimize the design?

Thanks

[Dunebuggy.com]

I'm a newbie to this board and perhaps these questions have already been asked: how much of your design is layed out on the computer?
What software do you use? Do you do any structural analysis and/or dynamic simulations of the suspension to optimize the design?

Thanks

There is 8 months of CAD work and over 1,000 individual cad files for this car primarily using solid works.. . we did do lots of simulations but no actual structural crash analysis.

The link below has some of the cad files posted to give an idea as well as other images.

http://dunebuggy.com/members/viewArticle.mp?iSequenceID=219&iStoryID=191

[Dunebuggy.com]

Here is another shot...

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-4.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

Gettin Closer.. here is a live shop cam shot..

We still have lots of work to do but gettin much closer!

(since this is a live cam shot this image may change frequently during the day)

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/buggycam.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/camera2.jpg

[E&S Racing]

WOW. Very nice job guys. You going to make it so you can run two spares or just the one??

[Dunebuggy.com]

You can run 1 or 2 spares on this car.

[E&S Racing]

Awesome, would nice in a prerunner model too!!!

[Negrete 5-1600]

Nice Work, Chuck
Everyone's gonna love the car at Laughlin.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Man-o-Man! She's one sweet beast. I'm in love.

Any numbers off the scales yet? F/R and total?

[Dan McMillin]

Amazing looking car! Reminds me of John Herder's old JIMCO Truggy.

[Dunebuggy.com]

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http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/camera2.jpg[/QUOTE]

The last time we weighed it it was 3840 60/40 FR with spares and just about everything we could pack on the car.. I will post the new weights and stats soon.Maybe tommorow if we get time t put it on the scales.

The live cams will be on @ my site for those that like to watch this sort of stuff.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

That's killer.. Gross under 4K!

60FT/40RR? What is your opinion of the best split?

[Dunebuggy.com]

60rear 40 Front was the first pass.. I am thinking 55 45 for the final The next time we weigh will be much more accurate as far as bias goes.. but very close on the total dry weight.

I will post as soon as we can put the scales under it.

[picone]

What is the wheelbase?

[JacobWisdom]

That's a cool looking car. Hopefully it performs as well as it looks. The side profile reminds me of an OCC chopper.

[El Ranas]

When will be the first race? (I wanna see it in action :D )

[Dunebuggy.com]

What is the wheelbase?

The wheelbase is 128" 92" track with 37" Projects

[BANNED4LIFE]

how bout lettin' me drive it? i'll give it a good shakedown at laughlin!!!!

[ffrank]

absolutely awsome looking car, can't wait to see it at Laughlin!!

[partybarge_pilot]

how bout lettin' me drive it? i'll give it a good shakedown at laughlin!!!!


You might have to shave your head for that, the cage doesn't look like it has mullet clearance.

[Dunebuggy.com]

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/buggycam.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/graphics/camera2.jpg

The last time we weighed it it was 3840 60/40 FR with spares and just about everything we could pack on the car.. I will post the new weights and stats soon.Maybe tommorow if we get time t put it on the scales.

The live cams will be on @ my site for those that like to watch this sort of stuff.[/QUOTE]



ok here is the official weight.
http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/racecar/weight.JPG

[ryno427]

haha. the car looks great. the body kinda looks like Herder's old truggy built built by geiser.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Here are a few more pics..

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-7.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-11.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-1.jpg

[Mark Newhan]

How about some pictures of the 4 seater in the background!

[Dan McMillin]

Here are a few more pics..

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-7.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-11.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-1.jpg

Awesome looking car! Very sleek looking!

Whats the motor / trans?

[Kbach66]

That thing is beautiful. Very nice work on the aluminum. Lotsa hours I'm sure.
Was all the AL work done in house or farmed out?

[swiftracing5]

Awesome job, Im only a little jealous .:)

[Dunebuggy.com]

How about some pictures of the 4 seater in the background!

Dan.. The motor is a built up LS7 Dyno says 560 to the wheels.
Trans is the Albin Sequential.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-7.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-11.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-1.jpg

Mark..
Here is the pic of the 4seater.. it is our Sidewinder Truck Series.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/ava3/images/DSC09354.JPG.jpg

[Mark Newhan]

Looks good!

[E&S Racing]

I like the truck version you guys build. It looks sweet.

[TreyP]

Works of Art! Both of them. Nice work, now the critical question. How much would one of these fantastic machines cost?

[bcampbell04]

car looks amazing. i love the body. i hope to see it at laughlin. great work.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

how bout lettin' me drive it? i'll give it a good shakedown at laughlin!!!!


I don't think that car would do your driving suit justice. :D

[pjc]

A bueatiful car. Are you worried about keeping the aluminum work straight? A fair hit to any corner and I'd think there would be tens of hours to fix the damage.

[Ramsey_ElWardani]

A bueatiful car. Are you worried about keeping the aluminum work straight? A fair hit to any corner and I'd think there would be tens of hours to fix the damage.Now is the time to use that beautiful body to make molds for a fiberglass version.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Now is the time to use that beautiful body to make molds for a fiberglass version.

We had the molds made last week and preserved the body so replacement pieces and future builds will be a whole lot easier.

[bcampbell04]

not sure if its been said, but are you guys racing it or will it be on display in tech at laughlin??? sorry if it's already been answered...thank you

[#1PatDeanFan]

GREAT ALUMINUM WORK! Almost to pretty to race!:D

[Dunebuggy.com]

not sure if its been said, but are you guys racing it or will it be on display in tech at laughlin??? sorry if it's already been answered...thank you

The car will be @ laughlin to show.. we plan on testing it Sunday.

All looks good so far!

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-7.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-11.jpg

http://www.dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-1.jpg
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-2.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/230-5.jpg

[Dunebuggy.com]

GREAT ALUMINUM WORK! Almost to pretty to race!:D


No Way!! I know a guy that can fix it ;)

[BIG JOHN]

Awesome Car Guys,that Aluminum Work Is Sweeeeeeeet Cant Wait To See It In Laughlin Good Job

[Dunebuggy.com]

Awesome Car Guys,that Aluminum Work Is Sweeeeeeeet Cant Wait To See It In Laughlin Good Job


Thanks John

Hope to see you there.
We will be there later today and the car will be in Tech the area in the am.

If you would like a tour come on by.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-3.jpg
http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-4.jpg

[geronimo5]

Chuck,

Is the car going to be painted or stay aunatural? I like the brushed Aluminum look.

Jayson

[Dunebuggy.com]

Chuck,

Is the car going to be painted or stay aunatural? I like the brushed Aluminum look.

Jayson

The sheetmetal work was way too nice to paint right away but do plan on doing a paint scheme @ some point.

[Paul Jacobs]

Just clear-coat it please! Too many man hours vested to just cover up.
Bling, Diddy, Bling, Diddy, Bling,Bling,Bling.

[Brice]

stunning guys. outstanding work

[arias1772]

amazing.... but i would be too scard to get a dent in it.... whats lighter? sheet metal or fiberglass

[Dunebuggy.com]

For those of you that didnt have a chance to see the new car @ laughlin here is a new gallery of pictures to check out.

Click here to view the latest. (http://www.vividcgd.com/customer/073-02-1/gallery/RRRS/index.htm#1)

[Fourstroker]

The car looks great guys. The more I look at it the more I am convinced that it is neither a Class 1 or a TT.

It is the Newage Class 5. Sure looks like a Baja to me. Good luck whenever this beast gets to race.

[#1PatDeanFan]

I loved the pics you posted of the car, but to see it in person this weekend was amazing. That car is the the Cream of thge Crop! Hands down the best aluminum work I have ever seen in my life! The pits were BUZZING about this car. Great job!!!!:D

[Dunebuggy.com]

Tried to edit the link but the system didnt want to cooperate so...

Here is the proper link. (http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcargallery1)[/QUOTE]

[swiftracing5]

Sweet. Awesome work.

[MH20]

Awesome car from start to finish. Definitely one of the most thought out cars that I have ever seen.

[bcampbell04]

that car was amazing. glad i got some pics of it at tech before it was swormed by people.

[geronimo5]

Did someone from Grand Rapids Michigan buy the car? "Gasoline Punk Screamin Mohawk Team"

They are looking for sponsorship on e-bay for the 09 SCORE season.

Something smells fishy to me:confused:

[BANNED4LIFE]

i told you, you SHOULD have let me drive it!

[Ricardo]

noticed that yesterday too, someone sponsor these guys!! :rolleyes:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Baja-1000-Baja-500-San-Felipe-250-Buggy-Sponsorship_W0QQitemZ150084499927QQihZ005QQcategor yZ102333QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Dunebuggy.com]

noticed that yesterday too, someone sponsor these guys!! :rolleyes:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Baja-1000-Baja-500-San-Felipe-250-Buggy-Sponsorship_W0QQitemZ150084499927QQihZ005QQcategor yZ102333QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks like a scam to me.. never heard or talked to these guys.. looks like they want 200 bucks for nothing.

Someone with an ebay account should report it. I tried but dont have an ebay account.

[BANNED4LIFE]

howd new car work????? any issues????

[Team G&R]

I heard the roof got a work out...

[Dunebuggy.com]

I heard the roof got a work out...

Yeah.. I wasnt driving but luckily it was just a bit of tin on the roof and the visor.. no big deal.. even the antenna survived ;)

[swiftracing5]

Looks like a scam to me.. never heard or talked to these guys.. looks like they want 200 bucks for nothing.

Someone with an ebay account should report it. I tried but dont have an ebay account.

I sent him a email asking if he was serious. He'll probably says yes but we'll see.

[zjohnson]

Any news on recent testing of the car? When is the car gonna be let out of the cage for its first race? Hope things are comming along well

[Dunebuggy.com]

Any news on recent testing of the car? When is the car gonna be let out of the cage for its first race? Hope things are comming along well

The car is doing awesome!!

The car now has 250 test miles on it with very little issues to report.. few small things here and there..

The best part was the test session with the guys over @ King..man they really woke that car up and made it work well! Hats off to those guys for taking the time to meet with us.

We are finishing up prep now and will go for one more run this weekend and then go race the dash for the cash 400 race up in Jean NV. (Racing IS.. the true test).

I am sure some video will start posting pretty quick too.

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-7.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-10.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-11.jpg

[bcampbell04]

good to hear the car is working great. good luck at the Gold Strike 400 in a couple weeks. i'll be pumped to see it in action there

[Dezertpilot]

FINALLY! Someone got smart and put TWO spares on a class 1 car, well not the first but seems that more and more cars are going this route? I always wondered why more class 1 cars didn't run TWP spares, anyways car looks BEAUTIFUL. Best looking cl1 out there in my opinion.

[McClintock]

McMillin's have run 2 spares on the longer races for a while

[E&S Racing]

I like the car guys and nice to hear that is coming along (Testing) rather well. You guys should try and make the TT 250 at the end of April. That would also make a good test session. Good luck at the 400

[Dunebuggy.com]

I like the car guys and nice to hear that is coming along (Testing) rather well. You guys should try and make the TT 250 at the end of April. That would also make a good test session. Good luck at the 400

We may try to make that one too.. we will see.
Lots of cars to get finished for customers not to mention a ton of other work in the shop right now.


http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-7.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-10.jpg

http://dunebuggy.com/assets/newspix/large/234-11.jpg[/QUOTE]

More pictures here (http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/newcargallery1/)

[Phazer399@hotmail.com]

Nice looking ride! Here is my favorite picture. Not only is the Class 1 sweet, but check out the photographer! :eek:

[randomracer]

is that all aluminum body? looks sharp

[mattb]

So how did the car do at the Dash for Cash? Any post race shake-down? It looks good in the pics.

[BrenthelIndustries]

awesome car!

[younggunracer]

Any more news on the car? Has it raced yet? How did it do? Love this car just wondering how its coming along???

[bcampbell04]

Any more news on the car? Has it raced yet? How did it do? Love this car just wondering how its coming along???

they raced the car at the SNORE DUNEBUGGGY.com Dash for the Cash. this is an exact quote from dunebuggy.com in the topic of the Dash for the Cash race.

"Tranny gave about 135 miles into the race.. looks like a planetary. (we just came off of 350 miles of testing) The car was awesome though."

hope that helps

[geronimo5]

Just saw the car in Masterpiece in Metal. Great coverage for the car, are there other being built? I'm sure the article will spark interest, good luck, I'd like to see more of these cars. Will we see it at the 40th Mil?

[zjohnson]

Nice article, just saw something that caught my eye . . . 4725 lb weight, thats one big class 1 car, when is it getting the trophy truck body and a sbc?

[Dunebuggy.com]

Nice article, just saw something that caught my eye . . . 4725 lb weight, thats one big class 1 car, when is it getting the trophy truck body and a sbc?

Thanks, Dirtsports did a nice job presenting the car.

The weight listed is "race ready "as shown in the pic is with fuel 2 spare 2 batteries..etc.. etc..

Below is a shot of the scales not race ready but wet.

http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/racecar/weight.JPG

[Dunebuggy.com]

Next up on the project list is our new Competition Series Sidewinder, In short it is a production "race version" of our Sidewinder..It is turning out very very nice!, I will post pictures soon as I get a chance.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Just saw the car in Masterpiece in Metal. Great coverage for the car, are there other being built? I'm sure the article will spark interest, good luck, I'd like to see more of these cars. Will we see it at the 40th Mil?

Yes more of these cars will be available, not sure about the 40th.. our shop is absolutely swamped..If we can get a breather maybe.

[matt_helton]

4725 pounds......dang that sux. the chassis is 1.75" right? were you guys originally planning on racing SCORE with this car or just playing around?

[Dunebuggy.com]

4725 pounds......dang that sux. the chassis is 1.75" right? were you guys originally planning on racing SCORE with this car or just playing around?

C'mon there Matt.. you should know the weight rules to get tagged. remember there is 87 gallons of fuel in there..

Drop 1/2 the fuel and a spare .. maybe one of the spare batteries jacks etc.. and you are well under score requirements.

none of the big cars are under 4k @ the line full of fuel "race ready"

[matt_helton]

the SCORE rule book says "vehicle weight is AS RACED, but without driver."

so the car was built for 2 spare tires but you'll only run one?....and the car was built for 2 batteries but you'll only run one?....and the car was built for a jack but you'll throw that out too?...and the car can hold 87 gallons but you'll only race with 43.5 gallons?......and "etc"...what, like tool bags, impact gun, water, mre's, first aid kit, spare parts.....is that the other stuff you might not run either?

and im doin some rough math here...

half the fuel.......280 lbs
tire....130lbs
battery...40lbs
jack....40lbs
"etc"....50lbs

=540lbs which equals 185lbs still over weight.

im not trying to bust your balls here just trying to understand the process here. perhaps im totally wrong here in my interpretation. if so please correct me.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Matt..
The photo below is Score "inspection Ready" weight.
http://www.dunebuggy.com/extras/racecar/weight.JPG

This could easily be even lighter if we wanted to nit pick but didnt need to.. easily under weight.

[Dunebuggy.com]

As far as your request to be corrected here is how the weight rules read.

Rule CR41


Weight shall be considered "wet weight" for closed course and "dry weight" for long course. (Dry weight is with ALL fuel tanks drained) Tools, spares and parts MUST BE REMOVED but otherwise the vehicle must be race ready. Official weight will be considered weight shown on official scales.

Hope this helps you there Matt.

[BHTool]

the SCORE rule book says "vehicle weight is AS RACED, but without driver."



Rule CR41
Weight shall be considered "wet weight" for closed course and "dry weight" for long course. (Dry weight is with ALL fuel tanks drained) Tools, spares and parts MUST BE REMOVED but otherwise the vehicle must be race ready. Official weight will be considered weight shown on official scales.

So what I get out of this is that the SCORE rule book says 2 different things. I wonder if this is so they can enforce the rules 2 different ways?

[Sparky]

I've never seen any officials make someone remove the spares/tools/etc... or check the fuel level before weighing the car.

[KREGER FAB]

C'mon there Matt.. you should know the weight rules to get tagged. remember there is 87 gallons of fuel in there..

Drop 1/2 the fuel and a spare .. maybe one of the spare batteries jacks etc.. and you are well under score requirements.

none of the big cars are under 4k @ the line full of fuel "race ready"

Not to add fuel to this but....
Dont use words like NONE. I can name several cars that were "engineered" to be light. People get carried away when building cars, especially without experience. Parts are parts..its how you hang those parts that make a difference. Our class 1 car is 3880lbs completely wet and 100% ready to race (55 gallons of gas,tools,spares, impact guns, front lights, everything). And I will put the pinkslip to the car on the line for that one. I personally laugh when people post the weights of there cars. My car is 1800lbs.....no fuel, no spare, no seats, no engine, 1 shock....Weigh it like you are going to race it...That is the only number that counts! Everyone agreed to these new chassis rules from score so I hope and pray that Savage sticks to them. I personally dont like them but as a fab shop that sells cars I have to build to the rules. A customer would be extremely upset if there new car was illegal to race. And rightfully so!!!

[Dunebuggy.com]

I think the words were "None of the big cars".. rps.. porter..jimco all weigh in in the range especially with the big parts.. series 30 etc.....

I am sure your car is great and light as most of your stuff is, but If we wanted a lighter car we would have created one..(that would be more like the upcoming Competition Series Sidewinder ) It will allow us to offer 2 entirely different levels of car. and believe me they are 2 different cars when you consider weight as a primary factor and not the limitation of weight allowed.

Sparky..Its not a hush hush project.. our shop doors are always open or the shop cams are on 24 hours a day. feel free to peak in whenever ;)

[zjohnson]

Matt, had a scare sometime last year when the tubing/weight issue was comming into effect. There where 3 builders whose cars are over weight with fuel, under when dry. Savage clarified that the inspection is for dry vehicles.
Chuck, what is the distribution on the car whe you start stacking the 2 130 lb spares and 560 lbs of fuel in the chassis. I applaude the distribution on the dry weight, nice to see people making an effort to move some sprung weight to the front of a vehicle.
Just hope it didn't get nixed by the dual llantas in the rear and the fuel in the tank.
When you gonna bring it out to a "big boys race" and see how she goes versus your competition . . .

Bitchin lookin car, matt did an awesome job on the body . . .

[bcampbell04]

he's going to get some good competition this weekend from TJ Flores, Ronny Wilson, Strobel, and a few others.

[Dunebuggy.com]

Matt, had a scare sometime last year when the tubing/weight issue was comming into effect. There where 3 builders whose cars are over weight with fuel, under when dry. Savage clarified that the inspection is for dry vehicles.
Chuck, what is the distribution on the car whe you start stacking the 2 130 lb spares and 560 lbs of fuel in the chassis. I applaude the distribution on the dry weight, nice to see people making an effort to move some sprung weight to the front of a vehicle.
Just hope it didn't get nixed by the dual llantas in the rear and the fuel in the tank.
When you gonna bring it out to a "big boys race" and see how she goes versus your competition . . .

Bitchin lookin car, matt did an awesome job on the body . . .

We new about all the new requirements from the get go.. as you build you do wonder about weight and this and that but the end result was very good and even better than expected.

When we put all the fuel and the other spare on it actually improved the weight bias to nearly 55/45.. the cool thing was that when you drain all the fuel in this car the bias only changes 2%

Big races soon I hope.. I have to cherry pick races based on Time available, Lots of customers to build cars for.

Looking forward to playing this weekend.

[matt_helton]

so in CR33 of the score rule book where it says "for the purposes of determining roll bar tubing sizes, vehicle weight is as raced, but without driver" and vehicles over 4000lbs will be 2.000" x.120".........so this is just a type-o or something? why would they have this in print if the real rule is a DRY CAR with NO SPARES, PARTS, JACKS, TOOLS, BATTERIES, or SUPPLIES?

i just race mdr in a mild steel pos so all this weighing and tubing size stuff is pretty foreign to me. i just really want to know what the rule IS and eliminate the gray area that i see with the term "as raced"

[craigincali]

Lets just say it. this car should be 2" tubing plain and simple. Some how...it will get a SCORE tag. This is what everyone is thinking, just come out and say it!!!

No offense Duneebuggy, but that is what everyone is thinking but no one has the balls to say it. Good luck w/ your new car!

[Dunebuggy.com]

so in CR33 of the score rule book where it says "for the purposes of determining roll bar tubing sizes, vehicle weight is as raced, but without driver" and vehicles over 4000lbs will be 2.000" x.120".........so this is just a type-o or something? why would they have this in print if the real rule is a DRY CAR with NO SPARES, PARTS, JACKS, TOOLS, BATTERIES, or SUPPLIES?

I just race mdr in a mild steel pos so all this weighing and tubing size stuff is pretty foreign to me. i just really want to know what the rule IS and eliminate the gray area that i see with the term "as raced"
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Rule CR41

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Weight shall be considered "wet weight" for closed course and "dry weight" for long course. (Dry weight is with ALL fuel tanks drained) Tools, spares and parts MUST BE REMOVED but otherwise the vehicle must be race ready. Official weight will be considered weight shown on official scales.
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Matt...
One rule establishes tube size requirement based on the weight of a race car and one determines and defines the rules in which weight is considered and determined and any requirements. (wet,dry etc.. along with two different types of racing.

If you are still unclear maybe a call to Score or Savage may be in order.

[matt_helton]

ok, maybe ill do that. thanks.

[Sparky]

Sparky..Its not a hush hush project.. our shop doors are always open or the shop cams are on 24 hours a day. feel free to peak in whenever ;)

You are over in Chandler? I'm going to have to swing in during lunch some day.

[FABRICATOR]

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, there were scientific methods before CAD, to see just how things were going to turn out. A diabolical instrument called a crane scale could do many things that would be difficult with a computer. Measure anything, anytime, at any stage. Use your imagination. :) (White arrow above shop kitty points to scale hanging from portable frame)

[zjohnson]

C'mon FAB Just show a picture of the top secret world total domination vehicle . . .

[KREGER FAB]

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, there were scientific methods before CAD, to see just how things were going to turn out. A diabolical instrument called a crane scale could do many things that would be difficult with a computer. Measure anything, anytime, at any stage. Use your imagination. :) (White arrow above shop kitty points to scale hanging from portable frame)

Are you suggesting that somehow... someway you would be able to estimate, plan and have an idea of what any particular project could possibly weigh "BEFORE" you actually built it! I call BS! NOT possible!! not to mention everyone knows that big heavy cars will always dominate so there is no point in your crazy futureistic alien like technology my friend. :eek:

What did Hardesty get in class one this 500? :confused: I forgot already....4th..5th..hmmmm
I wish people would build their cars lighter the front bumpers of our cars are getting thrashed trying to push them beasts out O the way!:D

[CaptinCrash]

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, there were scientific methods before CAD, to see just how things were going to turn out. A diabolical instrument called a crane scale could do many things that would be difficult with a computer. Measure anything, anytime, at any stage. Use your imagination. :) (White arrow above shop kitty points to scale hanging from portable frame)

aaaahhahahahahahahaha :D

[Sparky]

I think the words were "None of the big cars".. rps.. porter..jimco all weigh in in the range especially with the big parts.. series 30 etc.....

I am sure your car is great and light as most of your stuff is, but If we wanted a lighter car we would have created one..(that would be more like the upcoming Competition Series Sidewinder ) It will allow us to offer 2 entirely different levels of car. and believe me they are 2 different cars when you consider weight as a primary factor and not the limitation of weight allowed.

Sparky..Its not a hush hush project.. our shop doors are always open or the shop cams are on 24 hours a day. feel free to peak in whenever ;)

Sent you a PM...