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Hog Wild
June 26th, 2006, 16:37
A group of us Dakar bike veterans and Dakar hopefuls have been going out to the Death Valley area to hone our rally navigation and riding skills. It’s not an official event, but rather a gathering of rally enthusiasts pulling together our knowledge and resources to have a few days of fun and solid rally training in the desert. Our first training session two years ago was a great help to many of us rally novices, plus it was a hell of a lot of fun. Last year was even better! This year we’d like to welcome others who have their eye on doing Dakar someday. Although we are a bike oriented group, there’s no reason an off-road car/truck/buggy couldn’t join us. The Dakar style navigation and roadbook is the same either way. If you’re interested in joining us, contact Charlie Rauseo HERE (http://www.rallypanam.com/contact.html).

Some details:

Dates: September 22-24, 2006 (a week after the Nevada Rally Experience). Plan on arriving the evening of Thursday the 21st.
Bivouac Location: Little Dumont, 30 miles North of Baker (California) on Highway 127.
Conditions: HOT (~92 degrees average high).
Terrain: Dirt roads, sand washes, dunes, elevation 250ft-5400ft, dry lakes, etc.
Rally Routes: We plan on doing three routes, one each day, for a total of over 500 miles. These cover a huge region, from Death Valley all the way to Primm Nevada.
Evening Entertainment: Videos & slide shows from past Dakars.
Show & Tell: Paraphernalia from past Dakars (maps, airplane boxes, real Dakar roadbooks, etc.), not to mention bikes that have been to Dakar, loaded with all the cool rally gear, and new bikes that are going to the upcoming Dakar.

Charlie and others who have learned by making all the rookie privateer mistakes will be offering advice on all subjects related to Dakar. If you want to learn the tips and tricks, this is the place to be!

This is not an official event with all the handholding that some deluxe fully organized events offer. You’re on your own in every respect except asking questions, having the roadbooks available, and hanging out with the hard-core Dakar privateer gang. Everyone brings their own food, drinks, tent/motorhome, gas, etc. There is no medical support, no insurance, no helicopter, and no sweep crew. It's a lot like any other desert fun day you go on with your buddies.

We'll be out there for a few weekends ahead of time preparing the routes and burning lots of gas, and spending time on our computers for about as long, so we may ask you to chip in to help cover our expenses.

Your bike/car/truck/buggy will need:
- to be street legal, since small parts of the routes are on the highway.
- an odometer, preferably one that is easily resetable, like an ICO, IMO or similar.
- a GPS or compass for heading info while riding/driving.
- a Forestry approved spark arrester.
- 150 mile range, or have a support truck that can meet you at an appropriate place with gas (we have easy road access points already figured out). Or, there are shortcuts that can reduce the route length.
- If you're going to free-ride in the dunes, a flag (http://www.travsite.com/dumont/presidentsday01/Image045.jpg) is required by BLM.

Each year we develop new rally routes, fully documented in Dakar style roadbooks. This year we are adding some additional amazing routes. These routes are anywhere from 40 miles to 300 miles in length, and cover all sorts of different terrain. Several of the routes will have roadbooks available in both wide and narrow format (or 8.5x11 sheets for cars). So, if you only have the narrow roadbook, you’ll still be able to do most of the routes. As an example, here are the first three pages of one of the wide roadbooks (http://www.HogWildRacing.com/deathvalleyrally/Whitney_Primmo_Route_SAMPLE.pdf). The whole thing is 42 pages, which is a 36 ft long roll!

One of the short routes we’re working on now is viewable in Google Earth (GE). This is a MUST SEE! If you don’t have GE, get it free HERE (http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html).
Once you have GE, do this:
1) Click here to open the rally route (http://www.hogwildracing.com/deathvalleyrally/Whitney_Kelso_Route_2006_060622.kmz).
2) On the GE Tools menu, select “Play Tour”. This will fly you through the whole route automatically.
3) If the terrain is fuzzy in the beginning, it’s playing to fast. On the Tools>Options dialog, set the tour speed to a lower level and try again. The rally route has to be selected in the left side “Places” window, and it has to have a checkmark in it before starting the “Play Tour”.
4) If it doesn’t play through the tour when you select that menu option, try configuring your settings as follows:
Under Tools > Options > Control, make sure the tour "Speed" isn't set at zero. Mine plays well with a speed setting very close to "Slow", like maybe 10% of maximum speed. Set the "Pause" at zero to get it to flow well.
If you go into the Control "Advanced" settings, I have "Fly-To Speed" at 5.0, Tour Speed at 0.26.
Also (in GE v4), under Tools > Options > View, I have:
1024x1024, High Color, Off, Medium, Atmosphere, Exaggeration = 1, Terrain Quality ~15%, DirectX.
And under Tools > Options > Cache, I have 32MB and 400MB.

Keep in mind this particular route is still under development, so there will be changes, possible re-routes, and added miles as we continue the work.

In addition to riding the documented rally routes, we'll have time for some independent dunes riding and you'll have some time to practice creating your own mini roadbook route. Overall this is great stuff for anyone dreaming of Dakar.

http://www.hogwildracing.com/deathvalleyrally/Death%20Valley%20Rally.gif

p.s. Duane and I are skipping Dakar 2007 and aiming to return for Dakar 2008.

Chase 2
June 26th, 2006, 18:09
Wow!! Nice tour, thanks for sharing it!

TROPHYSEDAN
June 26th, 2006, 19:34
Looks like alot of fun. No races that weekend. We are going to make this one. Its a start. I am getting closer to DAKAR.

Jarvis
June 28th, 2006, 08:44
Hey you guys gunna make it? I thought u said no funds.

Hope to see you there, ill be the one hopped up on red bull and adrenalin!

Chase 2
June 28th, 2006, 09:08
Hey you guys gunna make it? I thought u said no funds.

Hope to see you there, ill be the one hopped up on red bull and adrenalin!

p.s. Duane and I are skipping Dakar 2007 and aiming to return for Dakar 2008.

Too bad we will have to wait a whole year for their return.

Hog Wild
June 28th, 2006, 11:18
Hey you guys gunna make it? I thought u said no funds.No go this year, ... no funds. That isn't stopping us from further development of the sidecar, and more training while we aim for Dakar 2008. But the main reason I'm working on this particular training thing is to help others prepare. I have created some software tools that really help layout these routes and automatically generate the Dakar style roadbook. It would be a shame to have these high-tech capabilities and not use them to help the other guys. There are a host of Americans I'd like to see do well in Dakar, and I'm doing what I can to help prepare them. I think it's 7 or so "privateer" American bikers going to Dakar this time. Most will be joining us for this training, plus several more who are looking towards doing Dakar in another year or two.

I just completed this overview of my 300 mile route:
http://www.HogWildRacing.com/deathvalleyrally/WhitneyPrimmoRouteOverview-PRELIMINARY.pdf

Jarvis
June 29th, 2006, 00:03
Do they all have service teams or are they looking for people. Plus we still have sum space in our service truck if you have people to do service but no transport for them.

Hog Wild
June 29th, 2006, 08:21
Do they all have service teams or are they looking for people. Plus we still have sum space in our service truck if you have people to do service but no transport for them.As far as I know, they all have assistance already arranged for Dakar. Charlie Rauseo, the guy I'm working with on this training, is bringing two Ford F350 trucks to Dakar to support his own team plus a few other riders. Plus, I think two of the others are also taking their own Ford F350's. So, the privateer American motos have a lot of their own assistance. They probably have a few open seats and room for more boxes themselves.

See details:
http://www.rallypanam.com/truckphotos.html

http://www.rallypanam.com/PhotosTruck/Truck12.JPG

Hog Wild
June 29th, 2006, 14:17
As it goes with Dakar, so goes it with our training. We're full up! We can't take any more 4-wheelers. If you have a bike, we may still fit you in, but otherwise you'll have to hitch a ride with Dennis or the other unconfirmed SUV. I know you all would love to ride along on the sidecar, but that easy-chair spot is full too. :eek:

RacerX1
July 16th, 2006, 07:41
I think my husband, Chris Blais, might be attending this. He was talking about it the other day! :)

Hog Wild
July 16th, 2006, 18:33
I think my husband, Chris Blais, might be attending this. He was talking about it the other day! :)Patty, while we would be honored to have Chris join us, I suspect he’s thinking of attending Nevada Rally Experience not Death Valley Rally. The NRE is the Casey Folks/Scot Harden event starting on September 15, while DVR is organized by Charlie and myself a week later.

If Chris really is interested in DVR, please have him contact us ASAP. We’re actually now full up for both bikes and cars, but I’m sure we could fit Chris in if he wanted to come. I think our rally routes are probably longer and tougher, and our roadbooks are more Dakar realistic than what’s going on at NRE. But where we’re going, there’s no hotel, no catering, and no other comforts. We’re just a gang of hardcore Dakar veterans and Dakar hopefuls pulling together and putting in some long hard miles with our eye on Dakar.

RacerX1
July 17th, 2006, 11:57
The more training, the better. Trust me, I know his schedule by heart! He's doing the Elko Rally Ride, The Nevada Rally, (a couple others) & yours. I'll have him get in touch with you today! Thanks!! Don't worry - he knows the drill -:D (sleeping in hotels is SO over-rated!) HA!
Patty, while we would be honored to have Chris join us, I suspect he’s thinking of attending Nevada Rally Experience not Death Valley Rally. The NRE is the Casey Folks/Scot Harden event starting on September 15, while DVR is organized by Charlie and myself a week later.

If Chris really is interested in DVR, please have him contact us ASAP. We’re actually now full up for both bikes and cars, but I’m sure we could fit Chris in if he wanted to come. I think our rally routes are probably longer and tougher, and our roadbooks are more Dakar realistic than what’s going on at NRE. But where we’re going, there’s no hotel, no catering, and no other comforts. We’re just a gang of hardcore Dakar veterans and Dakar hopefuls pulling together and putting in some long hard miles with our eye on Dakar.

TROPHYSEDAN
September 19th, 2006, 21:09
Death Valley Rally. are there any up dates. Best way to get there and what to look for. Thanks Dennis

RacerX1
September 21st, 2006, 08:42
Death Valley Rally. are there any up dates. Best way to get there and what to look for. Thanks DennisLocation is "Little Dumont Dunes" - 30.77 miles north of Baker on Hwy 127. See you there tonight!

dustyhusky
September 25th, 2006, 15:18
Charlie and Scott-

Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your considerable knowledge and insight, and for taking on the huge task of organizing the Death Valley Rally.

We enjoyed every minute of it.

Cheers,
Team Rally So Cal.

TROPHYSEDAN
September 25th, 2006, 22:47
Charlie and Scott. Thanks. Theres alot to learn about Dakar. Thanks to Andy, Derren and the Bailey crew along with all the other teams for putting up with us and our questions. How did the odometer do on Baileys car. Hope to see you guys in Dakar someday. Thanks again to everyone and best of luck in Dakar. Dennis

RacerX1
September 26th, 2006, 16:47
If anyone saw a "license plate" out on the course(s) anywhere, Chris lost his off his rally bike - we just noticed.

It was great meeting a lot of you. I'm sure it was a lot of work putting this together.

Best of Luck to all of you in Dakar! I'll be home being the "nervous" wife - again. :o

Hog Wild
September 26th, 2006, 18:20
We had a great success with DVR over the weekend. Thanks to all who attended. I think we had about 45 people including mostly bikes, a few cars, and a few crew. The majority of those will be headed to Lisbon in Late December for the start of Dakar.

If you intended to donate to the DVR preparation and forgot, please contact me or Charlie.

Feedback from the pro and privateer Dakar veterans was quite positive. Actually, it seemed like everyone was having a blast, and learned a lot too. Hot-shots included Jonah Street, Andy Grider (co-driver for Robby Gordon), Chris Blais, Elmer Symons, and many more close on their tails. Hopefully DVR has given a few Americans that small bit of added training that will help them to the finish of Dakar, land on the podium, or better yet, bring home a Dakar win for America.

The rally routes provided over 550 miles of roadbook navigation training. Friday morning everyone headed out on the warm-up 40 mile “Hog Wild” route. This was the first Dakar style roadbook navigation experience for many. The only help from the GPS on this route was current heading, so all were forced to learn how to navigate by roadbook, just like Dakar. Though there were a few who were navigationally challenged, we’re pretty sure nobody is still out there lost in some canyon. The first half was pretty rocky, but it eventually led into a really cool wash and canyon. Then came the “square snake”, a planned navigational challenge. Quite a few riders complained about that, then smiled, knowing we had planned it just to mess with their minds. Friday afternoon we loaded all the GPS’s with the 20 mile “Dunes Hell Ride” route, and over the next few hours the riders set off for a unique and possibly hellish experience. This was the only route where the GPS was a primary tool for navigation. With the occasional impossible sand hill thrown in between waypoints, everyone got a small taste of navigating and struggling through the dunes. A “fun” time was had by all. Ha ha!

I’m sure those who attended with agree, Charlie and I didn’t make things easy for anyone. In Dakar there are endless tasks, challenges, rushes, and all kinds of things that are just a PITA. We made sure DVR was similar. It wasn’t because we are mean, it’s because that’s the way Dakar is. Those who think Dakar is all about just riding in the desert don’t know Dakar.

While all the others were doing the Hog Wild and Dunes Hell rides on Friday, Jonah Street was on his own schedule, and did the 300 mile Primmo route solo, a day early since he had to leave early. Nine hours later, Jonah rolled back into the bivouac. Duane and I had pre-run it on the sidecar a week ago to correct all the roadbook errors and figure out some route-arounds where we found private property, locked gates, and other obstacles. We figured it was a tough route, but Jonah proved it was even tougher than expected. That forced us to bump the Saturday start time earlier, to 5:00am. I started everyone on the initial Liaison right from the bivouac, while Charlie raced up the road to start them on the Special, where the dirt began. Charlie went too far up the road, and completely missed the turnoff. No problem, as everyone started without Charlie’s go-ahead. Late in the day Elmer Symons blasted in to the finish, with a fast Primmo route time. Later, Blais and Grider came in, eventually followed by all the others. The fast guys all reported on a huge “bump” hazard that Duane and I had not put into the roadbook. They all hit it at speed, with wild feet-over-head experiences. Sorry guys, Duane and I went through that section at midnight on the sidecar a week earlier, and apparently at 20 mph in the dark that bump looked differently than at 60 mph in the day! In the end, all made it back to the bivouac one way or another.

Sunday began with a 6:00am start of the 200 mile “Charlie’s Challenge” route. This route had a little of everything, with dunes, washes, cool roads, single-track, and more. A good all-around fun ride, with some unplanned navigational challenges.

If anyone got any photos, please share them if you can. I only got a few:

Charlie giving fashion advice to Grider and Blais:
http://www.hogwildracing.com/deathvalleyrally/2006/Grider_Blais_100_0669x800.jpg

The usual troubles:
http://www.hogwildracing.com/deathvalleyrally/2006/BikeWork_100_0671x800.jpg

The cool shack way out on the Hog Wild route:
http://www.hogwildracing.com/deathvalleyrally/2006/Charlies_House_100_0677x800.jpg


If anyone saw a "license plate" out on the course(s) anywhere, Chris lost his off his rally bike - we just noticed. It was great meeting a lot of you. I'm sure it was a lot of work putting this together. Best of Luck to all of you in Dakar! I'll be home being the "nervous" wife - again. :oPatty, I was almost the last one out of there, and nobody said anything about finding a license plate. It's probably right beside the pair of shoes I lost the week before while pre-running. :) Hey, somehow I missed you out there. The sidecar ride will have to wait for another time. I gave a lot of rides, and nobody lost any limbs!

RacerX1
September 27th, 2006, 08:06
Patty, I was almost the last one out of there, and nobody said anything about finding a license plate. It's probably right beside the pair of shoes I lost the week before while pre-running. :) Hey, somehow I missed you out there. The sidecar ride will have to wait for another time. I gave a lot of rides, and nobody lost any limbs!Thanks for the info. He's trying to get another plate. He says he thinks he knows where it came off - I guess in some really rough stuff on Sunday's route. He had a good time. I was only at the driver's meeting briefly on Friday night. I left on Saturday to race on Sunday. :)