Desert Trucks At Chula Vista

[Greg]

I was asked by the powers-that-be at CORR to see what you guys would think of desert trucks running at the Chula vista track. I've been asked to see what I can organize to get this off the ground. Here's what has been proposed so far.
You need to have previously raced in a sanctoned body (score, mdr, more, bitd, etc).
There will be two groups racing and the division will be as follows, 1400 and 7 open race in the same group. 1450 and 7s in another group.
The track will be different than the last rounds with the possibility of some very challenging (but short) desert sections as well as most of the short-course track.
I know there are many, many ways of trying to classify all the entrants, but this is the best and most fair way of breaking them down. Please remember that if you havent raced before, you will not be allowed to race here as your first race.
This will NOT be a CORR event, but a seperate organization specifically designated to organize these classes at the Chula Vista (and possibly other west coast) track.
Please post comments and questions as the track owners are very interested to see the response. The bigger and better, the more likely it will happen.

[fatnbald]

go to bed
i think it sounds sweet. i would suggest a very clear deffinition of the class 1400 and 1450 split. aside from that what you have sounds good.

[John F2000]

sounds great!!

Just make sure one of the classes is a completely open class, very little limitations. Try to avoid limiting the motor to just naturally aspirated. It is significantlly cheeper for someone to run a blown (turboed or supercharged) motor.

[Greg]

As was posted, if you have previously entered (in this case MDR) then you would be allowed to run. The rules are very open. We would be elliminating a huge group of very capable trucks by only allowing 7 or 7s rules so it is open to just about any trucks that have raced in any 4 of these classes. Fatnbald, If you find a detailed decription of the difference between classes, let all of us know. 1400 and 1450 are seperated by that drivers own perception of his, and his vehicle's, abilities.

[irishprerunner]

sounds cool greg. i would try to make the trip from az for this one.

[S of SMD]

I was asked by the powers-that-be at CORR to see what you guys would think of desert trucks running at the Chula vista track. I've been asked to see what I can organize to get this off the ground. Here's what has been proposed so far.
You need to have previously raced in a sanctoned body (score, mdr, more, bitd, etc).
There will be two groups racing and the division will be as follows, 1400 and 7 open race in the same group. 1450 and 7s in another group.
The track will be different than the last rounds with the possibility of some very challenging (but short) desert sections as well as most of the short-course track.
I know there are many, many ways of trying to classify all the entrants, but this is the best and most fair way of breaking them down. Please remember that if you havent raced before, you will not be allowed to race here as your first race.
This will NOT be a CORR event, but a seperate organization specifically designated to organize these classes at the Chula Vista (and possibly other west coast) track.
Please post comments and questions as the track owners are very interested to see the response. The bigger and better, the more likely it will happen.


Greg, PLEASE Dont take this wrong but who are you and who are the powers to be at CORR that want this info. Rick, Jim Baldwin?? Is this a legit request for interest level to race TT at CORR? Or a someone who knows soneone who talked to someone who overheard someone say there gonna race TT's at CORR...

[matt_helton]

"who is greg?" oh man!! lol


greg is no other than the world famous shock satan, titan specialist, ROR master and all around off road guru!! :)

[Chop_DSR]

That would be great. The single most complaint I heard after the May race was that there was way too much down time at this years race compared to last year. My own personal experience was that there was more excitement last year with class 1 buggies and a few TT's thundering around out here! The class 7 races had a ton of action too so it would great to see it again. I hope they can pull it off and have it be fair so we can get more race teams out to play.

[Greg]

As of now there is really no talk of the TT/ Class 1 thing again. This is for the 7/7s/1400/1450 vehicles only (unless you want to run your TT in 1400 this Sat. in Lucerne). As for who I am, just some guy that likes watching races. And no, this is not hearsay. I was contacted by CORR management because of my experience in organizing racing with these types of trucks.

[billymanfroy]

"who is greg?" oh man!! lol

greg is no other that the world famous shock satan, titan specialist, ROR master and all around off road guru!! :)

I prefer to think of him as Jen's husband. LOL!

I can't tellyou how many people I've talked to who have personally sent in emails or phone calls asking to bring back at least the Class 7 guys, if not all the desert classes. They need the filler between pro classes. As bitchin' as that track/venue was, and how fun it was to race there, you can count me in - even if it's not CORR or on TV.

A warning from someone who actually raced at Chula Vista last year: It was complete and total chaos with 2 limited classes in 7... The possibility of having a ginormous cluster f**k with it wide open is large. Mark my words. We as drivers need to understand this going in, or it ain't gonna work.

NO rules enforcement, NO consistency with penalties/yellows, NO follow through, NO posted results, CHANGED posted results, ADVERTISED PURSE reduced to fraction... AND THEN SPLIT OVER TWO CLASSES. I figured all of this plus the inexperience of most of the racers left a bad taste in their mouths. I know it did me, but then I'm replaceable.

It was fun, I was grateful for the opportunity, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but it really was nothing more than a glorified tuff-truck race.

[MSS]

"who is greg?" oh man!! lol


greg is no other than the world famous shock satan, titan specialist, ROR master and all around off road guru!! :)

Sorry, he doesnt play with prerunner kids anymore... We will try to get him out more..

[down4glamis]

This sounds like an awesome opprotunity to just get more exposure for us small time racers. Even if its not CORR, and its NOT on TV, and its just a glorified tuff trucks, its getting more seat time, and more people checking out other vehicles. It can only be good, and can fill in gaps during the real CORR races.

Count me in!

Sean Kepler
1475

[Greg]

This will be much more structured than the last time but will have pretty open rules. the point is to get trucks/racers out there. It looks as though alot of guys are interested so we will update/change as it is required. I want to make this some great racing for everyone involved (drivers to spectators) so I will do what is needed to make that happen.

[BHTool]

AWSOME!!

Just what I wanted to hear. I have been to 3 of the last 4 rounds of racing at Chula Vista and they were all great. The last event though seemed like it was missing something. There was a almost nothing going on on the track from 8am till 1pm. It’s such a great venue and a fun track it’s a shame to let it be empty. I think earlier races will build up excitement for later races, and get many spectators there earlier.

I think the rules will work fine for the first event, and possibly a few more, but as it becomes more popular there might be a need for more precise regulations.

As of now as I understand the rules to be that if you have raced 7 you are in the Desert Unlimited Truck class and 7s is in the Desert Modified Truck class. If you have raced in 1400 then you are in Desert Unlimited Truck class and 1450 is in the Desert Modified Truck class. These are not the names of the classes for Chula Vista but you get my point. For those of you who don’t follow MDR or MORE 1400/1450 are the sportsman truck classes and have very open rules, but generally small budgets. One rule I would like to see added is that if you have a V8 you are automatically in the Desert Unlimited Truck class. Greg I always liked the rules you had at the ROR, there were 4 classes but each class was evenly matched.

How ever it is done this will be extremely fun and draw a more spectators. Thanks to CORR and Greg Gagnon for making this happen.

For those of you that don’t know Greg he and his wife Jen ran the Rialto OffRoad Raceway (ROR). Greg and Jen started Inland Prerunners, now United Prerunners truck club back in the 90’s. They are heavily into offroad racing, desert and short course, and have worked for/with CORR in Chula Vista for all 4 rounds. Greg is the real deal and I assure you he will work his butt off, like he always does, to make this a great event.

[fatnbald]

sorry to be vague.
i am well aware of the lack of a class defining set of rules for the sportsman and pro-sportsman classes. there are linked v/8 trucks still entering and competing in the 1450 class. i was thinking maybe if a line was drawn now there would be no debate later.
but what do i know.

As was posted, if you have previously entered (in this case MDR) then you would be allowed to run. The rules are very open. We would be elliminating a huge group of very capable trucks by only allowing 7 or 7s rules so it is open to just about any trucks that have raced in any 4 of these classes. Fatnbald, If you find a detailed decription of the difference between classes, let all of us know. 1400 and 1450 are seperated by that drivers own perception of his, and his vehicle's, abilities.

[PLS]

[QUOTE=Greg Fatnbald, If you find a detailed decription of the difference between classes, let all of us know. 1400 and 1450 are seperated by that drivers own perception of his, and his vehicle's, abilities.[/QUOTE]

I know a lot of the 1400 guys don't agree with it, but MORE has some rules in place to split the 1400 and 1450 classes. I'm not saying they are the way to go, but it is something to look at for a start.

[RCinqMars]

i would love to see the desert classes come back, even if it is just a grown-up version of ROR or tuff trucks. gives us a chance to dice it up in front of a large group of spectators. more exposure is what we always look for. only suggestion.... follow MDR when it comes to splitting 1400/1450.

...hopefully this event happens, it definently has alot of potential.

[down4glamis]

IMO, at a short course style course, links/leafs have no real advantage. In barstow, over 4ft whoops for 30+mi, links do have their advantage. but i personally liked having leafs for tufftruck and ROR type events, and definitly need a sway bar(Blitzkrieg motorsports is offering a new one for linked trucks) and shorter limit straps...

[Whitewater]

I personally wouldn't be competitive with enough of the 1400 trucks in my wildest dreams to waste my time. But I do know two guys that race 7 open with VORRA, (Austin and John) and aren't online that would love to. Their trucks won't be back together until August timeframe but I spoke with Austin Monday night and we talked about this. They most likely won't be competitive either but are always down for racing.

[Eric Tadeja]

is there goingot be an entry fee or any kind of pay out?

[fishd00d]

I think its a great idea. I say that you enter whatever class you have raced in before in MDR or SCORE or BITD or whatever. There is no advantage to having links on a short course IMO so the trucks that race in 1450 with links shouldnt have that much over the ones in 1450 with leafs. The motor thing could be a bit of a problem though. In the desert the v8's have to be able to finish in 1450 but on a short course the 4 cyl 1450's are going to have a disadvantage. I think the 1450/7S class should be restricted to 6cyl and below. Anything with a v8 needs to race in the 1400/7open class.

[billymanfroy]

Anything with a v8 needs to race in the 1400/7open class.

And therein lies the problem with these goofy friggin' run-what-you-brung classes. Leafs vs. Links may or may not be an advantage, but a stock frame, 78" wide truck has NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER against a back-halfed, setback V8, 90" wide monster. Period. It's like comparing apples to corn dogs.

And a stock-framed 7s is also screwed against back-halfed trucks. You guys all act like "7 Open" is unlimited, and therefore fair game. It's not that simple. You guys all chose to build trucks that you knew would be illegal. I chose to build one that was legal. I have no interest whatsoever in bringing a knife to a gun fight, and I vehemently refuse to do it. But I digress...

[down4glamis]

well im sure itll be that much sweeter when you do hand some wazoo centermount v8 v8 their @ss....

[baja619]

This is great news. I know of at least 3 trucks we can bring down to compete in the 2 classes. Regardless of the rules we will be there in the spirit of just having fun

[RCinqMars]

HECK YES!!!.......what sportsman racing is all about. this weekend in Lucerne we'll find out just how interested everyone is. With the death of ROR i know i have been itching for an event like this to come up.

[WFODAN]

Billy ,


That rock throwing V6 you have is far from ANY V8 currently raced in 1400 . You have NO NEED to worry about a 90 inch wide tube chassis V8 going against you , as they don't currently race either . That is why Greg put the stipulation in that you must have raced in the past in the classes designated in his post .


As for the rules .....


The rules MORE has in place have completely removed themselves from the intent of the class . Their low entry numbers in the class show that clearly , so I wouldn't even think about going with their rules . MDR on the other hand runs a more open set of rules for both classes , and has great success with it , once again clearly shown by the entry numbers in each . They (MDR) are having the McKenzies 400 this weekend with approx 25 entries in 1450 so far and should be around ten trucks in 1400 by Saturday .


On a funny side note . The prerunner truck scene , and more importantly the 1400/1450 classes get ten times the ink in magazines nation wide than any TT in existance . Kind of makes me laugh when I see the sponsors on the side of TTs because they are TTs . Sure they are very popular at the races , and with the limited fans that show up , and the racers themselves , but they still don't get the same ink as a budget 1450 truck across the board that is seen , not only at the race , but each month in ANY off road type magazine that has a circulation base that far exceeds any race . Just food for thought .

[BlueCoyote]

Count me IN!!! ROR and CORR were a blast!!!
Rules - good luck, someone will always be unhappy.
But Fish has the right idea
7s / 1450 (4 & 6 Cyl) / 1400 (4cyl) - basically the same truck anyway, and big wheel travel will not matter much on short course anyway
7sx / 7 open / 1400 V6 - again, linked, bigger HP trucks.
And maybe a class for 8, 1400 / V8 trucks.
However you decide to do it (and you did a very good job at the ROR events), it will be a great event.
Check your PM as well...

[BHTool]

And therein lies the problem with these goofy friggin' run-what-you-brung classes. Leafs vs. Links may or may not be an advantage, but a stock frame, 78" wide truck has NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER against a back-halfed, setback V8, 90" wide monster. Period. It's like comparing apples to corn dogs.

And a stock-framed 7s is also screwed against back-halfed trucks. You guys all act like "7 Open" is unlimited, and therefore fair game. It's not that simple. You guys all chose to build trucks that you knew would be illegal. I chose to build one that was legal. I have no interest whatsoever in bringing a knife to a gun fight, and I vehemently refuse to do it. But I digress...


as i see class 7, to compete for a win in the desert you have to run one of those built 4.5 550+ horse motors. you'd be hard pressed to find a motor whith that power in 1400 or 1450, infact i would venture to say that there isn't one. i would take the leaf sprung SY2 over any back halfed (or 7) truck with an = hp to weight ratio. heres 2 trucks that are V8's... you really think your truck couldn't beat them in Chula Vista

[billymanfroy]

Look, I'm not saying I'm against the idea, I just would want it to be fair if I were to tow 8 hours to San Diego again. Running my truck against anything wider or with a cut frame is just plain retarded.

And Dan, the first thing you said when you got out of the Baja Shop work of art in Chula Juana was, "I wish I could run my truck instead." Is that because yours has so much more horsepower than the 540 number you guys were throwing around? lol!

I'll shut up now, and I repeat I am NOT trying to bag on the idea. Just needs some refining, and I know Greg is the best man for the job. The 1400/1450 rules are going to kill the traditional 7 trucks, and that's what everyone but me wants anyways.

BHTool, if you guarantee me those are the only two coming, I might consider it, but you can't, so I won't.

[fishd00d]

What truck that raced in the 1400 class are you scared of?? Short course is 80% motor and I can guarentee you that none of the 1400 trucks have even close to the amount of HP that you 7open guys have!!

[REEVESRacing]

...The prerunner truck scene, and more importantly the 1400/1450 classes get ten times the ink in magazines nation wide that any TT in existance . Kind of makes me laugh when I see the sponsors on the side of TTs because they are TTs . Sure they are very popular at the races , and with the limited fans that show up , and the racers themselves , but they still don't get the same ink as a budget 1450 truck across the board that is seen , not only at the race , but each month in ANY off road type magazine that has a circulation base that far exceeds any race.Greg, GREAT News! Glad to see "CORR" looking at more Desert Racing classes, and your involvement.

Certainly you saw this thread:http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif CORR Chula Vista, and (http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19273)you have a strong understanding of the level of interest in the 1400 / 1450 classes, and the Fan and Sponsor base (see Dan's qoute).

With the support of the Teams in these classes, you should be able to set up a racer friendly Series / Organization with:

Pre-Race Planning and follow through (including minimizing schedule conflicts w/ Desert Races),
Accepted Rules,
Working "CRB" w/ consistent enforcement (i.e. Penalties / Yellows, etc.),
Posted Official Results / Points Standings,
Reasonable Entry Fees,
Solid Purse / contingency Payouts.Keep us posted on your thoughts / progress, and what the interested Race Teams can do to support it!

MDR #1462

[Kartman]

Sounds like a great idea. It would really livin up the downtime.

[billymanfroy]

What truck that raced in the 1400 class are you scared of?? Short course is 80% motor and I can guarentee you that none of the 1400 trucks have even close to the amount of HP that you 7open guys have!!

Fish, I ain't askeered of anyone. Most everyone should know that by now.

I am, however, fundamentaly against cheaters who deliberately choose not to follow the rules and then complain about it. I've spent the last ten years and more than all my money to come up with a truck that is built to the nth of the rules, but is still perfectly within them. Racing rules-based trucks against ones built outside of the rules benefits nobody, and is, in the words of a famous guy, WAFJ. And if one more person says, "notching the frame doesn't make a difference anyway!" I'm volunteering to rochambeau that person, and they can go first!!!

IF IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO IT???!!???

My engine cost me $5,600. IT WAS LISTED ON EBAY FOR A YEAR!!! I sold my 220 hp esslinger 4 cyl with all our spares for more than that... To a stand-up guy who was following the rules in 7S. If you can't figure out how to build a 500+ hp V8 for that, you're in the wrong friggin' sport.

I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. If horsepower is all it takes to win, why did Dan want to drive his truck rather than the beautiful 7 open truck that AJ built with 540 hp? Why don't we just set up a dyno at the track and award the guy the highest numbers the trophy?

You guys always have a great cover/sob story, but I'm not buying. If I don't show up, the race will still go on. If I do show up and win, everyone will say, "He was supposed to!" If I get beat, there will be press releases and rag articles for the next 2 years. I'm in a no-win situation, even if I win. Let's drop it.

[down4glamis]

I think your looking at this wrong. Its basically a exposition race, no points, probly not much payback, no glitz, no glamour. why worry about wat other people are running, and just race for fun. its like goin to the kart track(go karts), some are beat, some are fast, but i have gotten faster laptimes on a kart that wouldnt stick to the track, than buddys w/ a good one. I think your over analizing this race, its no B1k, or VtoR or anything of the sorts. its for fun! keep it that way!

[billymanfroy]

I think your looking at this wrong. I think your over analizing this race, its no B1k, or VtoR or anything of the sorts. its for fun! keep it that way!

Well, that changes everything... Except for the costs involved in towing 1,000 miles to get there and back. Thanks for the tip!

[Kartman]

I am, however, fundamentaly against cheaters who deliberately choose not to follow the rules and then complain about it.
Are you saying that 1400/1450 trucks are cheating?

[billymanfroy]

Are you saying that 1400/1450 trucks are cheating?

Not in the class/sanctioning body they were built for, but they are equivilent to trophy trucks when put up against a truck that has a stock frame and 78".

Edit: My brother just looked over my shoulder and told me to STFU and we'll be there to run you guys no matter what gets laid out. Nevermind! Beers on Vance!

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Billy

[down4glamis]

If you look at it as driving down for fun, then you wont be dissappointed is all. I want to run VORRA one day, the track looks fun. I wouldnt expect to go there and whoop everybodys ***, or be anybody, i'd go for the fun. I hope thats how racing kinda stays for me, if i ***** about how far it is, and if its worth my time, then i should be goin, i dont like to 2nd guess myself half way down there..

[Lloyd Co-Dawg]

Wow this sounds like alot of fun!! I have never driven a "track" so to speak, I hope it all pans out!!

[IvanDan]

I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. If horsepower is all it takes to win, why did Dan want to drive his truck rather than the beautiful 7 open truck that AJ built with 540 hp?

540 HP? I call BS on that one anyways. If they are within the SCORE 4.5L rules I think its pretty damn tough to get over 490-500 hp out of one of those motors.

[R_TAYLOR]

540 HP? I call BS on that one anyways. If they are within the SCORE 4.5L rules I think its pretty damn tough to get over 490-500 hp out of one of those motors.
hey Dan how goes it? I had a 4.5 I ran at the baja 2000 that was built by ernie elliot (bills bro) . I never dynoed it BUT I think it had close to 600hp.I kid u not that was the funnnest, fastest and whatever else adjective I can think of motor ever. Unfortunately I didnt have a dry sump and scattered the thing at 910 mm. I will cry about that for years to come. So if you have the $$$$ and get hold of ernie you will have big smile on your face too. Whats happening with Craig? I miss racing him.Hell I miss racing period.

[WFODAN]

OK Billy ,


To clear this up for you ...... I said that I wish I was racing my own truck at the CORR race instead of The Baja Shop 7 Machine because of comfortability with the truck . If you remember , the very first time I even sat in the truck was to line up for Saturdays three or four practice laps . Not to mention the truck was new with minimal testing by AJ himself in it . I didn't fit well in the truck , and basically , I wasn't comfortable in it . For that reason , I wish I had my truck instead . Not because it would be faster , because it clearly is not , but just for the familiararity of driving it .



Come on down and run your truck Billy . You'll do fine . Nobody will think anything either way if you win or not . Racing is supposed to be about a good time . Not a chore . I might not even make the race myself due to coming home from Hawaii at 6am Saturday morning at LAX , so an 8am race doesn't sound possible unless the guys want to tow the truck down there , and have me meet them there just in time to race......






IvanDan , call BS if you want .... I'm sure AJ still has the dyno sheets from the motor when Leonard built it and ran it for him .

[SpceSpff]

i dont know if i missed it in the thread- but dan, youre making it sound like there is dates already nailed down? do tell.

Billy/Johnny- bring the truck. you will do just fine, and thats the truth. you hold it together, and my money is on you. just let me co drive a few laps damnit lol

[WFODAN]

From what I have been told the date will be the next Chula Vista event on 7-22-06 if the interest is there from the participants . We all know the interest is there , so where does that leave it ?

[Bonze2001]

Throw in another vote to run the desert trucks at the next event!

[Blue Man]

Cant make the next event, but the truck will be ready and we will bel there, sounds good to me, can we make a few thou racing 1450? Bet not we will be in for some fun.

[TRichards]

Will there be a class for the 1400 for big trucks like mine, fullsize chevy w/ V8,linked etc. OR will we race with the open mini 1400's. This is in my backyard so we might consider it.

[McClintock]

Win or lose, fast or slow, this is a great chance at a fun experience with some major exposure. Thumbs up Greg.

'shoe''s truck would 'kick' the 1450/1400 truck's butt, we're all big, wide and loppy

[S of SMD]

AWSOME!!

For those of you that don’t know Greg he and his wife Jen ran the Rialto OffRoad Raceway (ROR). Greg and Jen started Inland Prerunners, now United Prerunners truck club back in the 90’s. They are heavily into offroad racing, desert and short course, and have worked for/with CORR in Chula Vista for all 4 rounds. Greg is the real deal and I assure you he will work his butt off, like he always does, to make this a great event.


cool sounds like a mover and shaker.. look fwd to meeting him someday .. i thought this was a request for TT CORR entry info.. interest

i just wanted to make sure this was a legit thread with a legit question other wise we need to take this thread hostage and start bagging on Jr Syko and his hair gel..

[Becerra]

Sounds good, as long as the 7s guys get it fair its good with me.

[garagebuilder]

Count me and ROD2 in for some action. Willing to help out with anything/ labor for this to happen.

Got some advice for u guys

Faster class= 7 open and 1400
1400= V8's and the 2.9


Not faster class= 7s and 1450
1450= not V8's



Racing for me is never about the money, racing isn’t my job, at my job I make money for racing. Figure out your priorities and don’t bi tch about trivial ideas. I’m directing this towards shoe so no one confuses anything, your comments in my opinion have brought down this thread because you seem to be the only person worried about not being competitive, everyone else is stoked on the idea that we will no longer be in the grand stands spectating. It's the train of thought that I see in your posts that have brought debates about 1450 and 1400 up and class separations and contingency obligations, even though you have nothing to do with it.

mike ''mexi'' guillen
"1497/dgaf" giant chase and race

[billymanfroy]

It's the train of thought that I see in your posts that have brought debates about 1450 and 1400 up and class separations and contingency obligations, even though you have nothing to do with it.

Dude!! I already quit! Debates are what forums are for, and for the record, everyone's cool and I already said I'd be there, so now it's your turn to STFU and let it die.

To say I have nothing to do with it is pretty frickin' retarded. How far do you have tow to get there? An hour? Two? Are you running a SCORE/BITD legal truck? I am, and if I'm going to race a bunch of 1400/1450 trucks, then that means I have something to do with it. Get used to it.

So we can turn this back to a more positive thread. I will be there. You'd better tape on some chicken wire and bring lots of kevlar tear offs. Racing is nothing but fun for me. The best for me part is roosting people and blowing their face shields off. Have FUN!!! I'd like nothing more than for you to not believe me.

So for the third time now, I am begging you guys to let it go. I WILL BE THERE!

[johnnyweb]

Go Gett"em Billy!!! Norcal Is In The House!!!

[Brad Falin]

Billy:
Do you have some body panels and fenders that I could graft onto the buggy, And we go run a 1450 race and dual it like at PC.

[Brad Falin]

Any other classes being proposed to run there such as class one again, I would like to race there. Anyone know why they did not race there this year?:eek:

[green787]

[QUOTE=billymanfroy]So we can turn this back to a more positive thread. I will be there. You'd better tape on some chicken wire and bring lots of kevlar tear offs. Racing is nothing but fun for me. The best for me part is roosting people and blowing their face shields off. Have FUN!!! [QUOTE]

Hey Billy,
You'll place better if you stay out of my rear fenders this time!!!!;)

[prerunner68]

Now you guys want to put limits into the classes??? I say lets meet this weekend at the 400 and talk about it.

[garagebuilder]

Dude!! I already quit! Debates are what forums are for, and for the record, everyone's cool and I already said I'd be there, so now it's your turn to STFU and let it die.

To say I have nothing to do with it is pretty frickin' retarded. How far do you have tow to get there? An hour? Two? Are you running a SCORE/BITD legal truck? I am, and if I'm going to race a bunch of 1400/1450 trucks, then that means I have something to do with it. Get used to it.

So we can turn this back to a more positive thread. I will be there. You'd better tape on some chicken wire and bring lots of kevlar tear offs. Racing is nothing but fun for me. The best for me part is roosting people and blowing their face shields off. Have FUN!!! I'd like nothing more than for you to not believe me.

So for the third time now, I am begging you guys to let it go. I WILL BE THERE!

2 ways that that sentence could have been read, i should have made it less vauge. the "nothing to do with it" part meant nothing to do with the 1450/1400 class rules split deal. Not meaning nothing to do with this race. i would have let it die, but my vaugeness made me look like a douche, so im correcting it. it was meant to point out how your "what if" attitude brings up debates that get everyones panties in a wad, i see a similarity to your posts and those posts in other threads from other people on other sites that share this viewpoint on competition. my truck is 100% garage fab, mild steel, mig welded, driven 45mins of freeway traffic to work, 2.9 fury. add on top of that a few races under my belt and i will be towing it to chula vista to run with ya bra.

[billymanfroy]

Mexi,

Thanks for that, and it's all good. I really do hope this gets pulled off.

Prerunner68, just a little tip... Don't post when under the influence. Or at least read the whole thread first. Can't tell if your serious or not given what's in (and lacking from) your profile.

GreenStripe - LOL!! I promise not to hit you if you promise not to stop in front of me!!! And no matter what happens, I won't back up and slam into you unless someone piles into me again!

KTHXBYE

[Steve_HKmtrsprts]

Make this happen. As for the rules, good luck, you cant please everyone, but Greg and Jen came up with some great classes at ROR.

[On The Edge Racing]

My desert truck is almost done and racing at Chula Vista would be coool. So count me in if you can pull it off.

[green787]

Billy Manfroy..
I don't care what happens as long as your in-car is working...that made some great video...!!! I found out that the pick up tube in my brand new fuel cell was curved all the way up to the top of the tank and sucking air 10 minutes after filling it up... Kept blaming my fuel pump... it's fixed now... so I can pass you like a GREEN STREAK!!!!

[prerunner68]

Now you guys want to change the specs of the class? what ever happened to run what ya brung???(unless it goes aganist you, I got it now)

[WFODAN]

For 2007 many of the 1400/1450 trucks will be BITD legal for 7200 ..... Just food for thought .

[ESB4130]

at the last chula vista race, myself and several others were asked to take a survey regarding the race, what we liked about it and what we didnt...and the one thing that everyone i heard say was "wheres the desert trucks?"....along with "where the hell am i supposed to sit?". now...the first one is the subject at hand....second one is just a side-comment but still an issue. anyways, im 100% for the idea that greg has come up with being 7s/1450 and 7/1400. now...some of you may not realize it...but a course like this will probably favor vehicles with leaf springs over linked trucks simply because of the body roll...and a HUGE factor in this is going to be HP. a truck that may do extremely well in the desert, like dans truck, may not do so well on a short course just because its down on hp compared to the 7 open trucks like LR and even AJ. alot of the 7s guys actually have pretty fast motors, and will probably work alot of the slower 1450 trucks which are all garage built and generally have all the money put into stuff to make it handle better...not go faster. my friend tyler and i are seriously considering entering this race if money is there (most likely not LOL), and regardless if im racing it or not i will definetly be there to watch, and mainly because of the desert trucks coming back. my experience last race was that although it was pretty cool to watch...it wasnt NEARLY as exciting as last year. one of the reasons was so much less racing, the other being horrible seating and ammeneties compared to last time, and before i heard desert trucks were coming back, i was pretty set on skipping out on this next corr race if it was going to be the same as the last one.

i say run what ya brung, the rules that greg has come up with are perfectly fair and will make some very interesting racing. and bringing back the desert racing part to the race is one of the best moves that could have been made. maybe the next step is for greg to open up another short course track to have qualifying rounds at, and have the finals held at the corr races =)

[redline]

ok so i dont even know if i cant have my truck ready for this race but if i did am i going to have to race in 1400/7o? i have a 4cyl but should have close to beldins power with a v8. I think that people who say v8 needs to go to 1400 need to rethink it a lil bit. just because you have v8 doesnt mean extremely fast. granted i dont want to race against beldins tank(just do to the fact it weights twice what my truck does). but i also dont want to race against 500+hp mini trucks. i think it needs to just be you race the same class in the desert that you race in the short course.

[REEVESRacing]

i was pretty set on skipping out on this next corr race if it was going to be the same as the last one.

maybe the next step is for greg to open up another short course track to have qualifying rounds at, and have the finals held at the corr races =)
Bullseye!

Entire post...thanks for putting it out there clearly, and being constructive.

[Brutpwr]

Billy Manfroy,
Glad you will be racing at Chula Vista...maybe we will get to see you race this time around!

Jason:)

[Whitewater]

i say run what ya brung, the rules that greg has come up with are perfectly fair and will make some very interesting racing. and bringing back the desert racing part to the race is one of the best moves that could have been made. maybe the next step is for greg to open up another short course track to have qualifying rounds at, and have the finals held at the corr races =)

I know how you southerners hate driving up north but there is a good short course track in Sacramento and a series that races on it. Greg and Big Rich (VORRA) should hook up and put something together, maybe a North/South shootout or something. Just random ideas...

[down4glamis]

ok so i dont even know if i cant have my truck ready for this race but if i did am i going to have to race in 1400/7o? i have a 4cyl but should have close to beldins power with a v8. I think that people who say v8 needs to go to 1400 need to rethink it a lil bit. just because you have v8 doesnt mean extremely fast. granted i dont want to race against beldins tank(just do to the fact it weights twice what my truck does). but i also dont want to race against 500+hp mini trucks. i think it needs to just be you race the same class in the desert that you race in the short course.


If you have never raced the truck, you cant have your 1st race here. I will be running my linked 4.0 ranger in 1450. Truck is well underpowered and has so much body roll, that if i dont roll, ill be 3'wheelin around the corners(well not w/ 10" limitstraps! WAJ). I should be out here, if i dont then MORE will see me at the nite race. 6:00 gears on a short course... i can see it now =)

[fishd00d]

Devin has raced his truck before....race in the same class you race at MDR in. So Devin your in 1450....

[down4glamis]

oops. I thought that redline truck was just getting finished? turbo motor?

[fishd00d]

Ya same turbo 100k motor he raced with before when The Piece with stock motor checked out on him....This time it might run right?? :)

[redline]

Ya same turbo 100k motor he raced with before when The Piece with stock motor checked out on him....This time it might run right?? :)

peice won by tranny default both time. first lost the tranny all together secondtime lost the clutch. but yes the peice did beat us twice

[down4glamis]

Any idea on the dates for this? is it goin to be the weekend of the 22-23? The MORE night race is the 22nd, and I plann on racing that. Just curious on what is really going on with it(wake up saturday morning at CORR, race, then tow the truck to lucerne...)

[billymanfroy]

::RETRACTION:: OK, I'm not going to be there, sorry. I entered the SCORE Terrible's Cup II instead. Any updates on whether or not this is really going to happen Greg?!?

Billy

[SpceSpff]

::RETRACTION:: OK, I'm not going to be there, sorry. I entered the SCORE Terrible's Cup II instead. Any updates on whether or not this is really going to happen Greg?!?

Billy

hmmm i might need to make a run to vegas now!!!

[offroadracer516]

a full blown 7 truck will kil a 1450 and 1400 a truck like roselers,wanzeek,herrera if you think not then a 1450 needs to win overall at a more or mdr race.

[garagebuilder]

a full blown 7 truck will kil a 1450 and 1400 a truck like roselers,wanzeek,herrera if you think not then a 1450 needs to win overall at a more or mdr race.

Think about what you said.

Full blown 7 truck has rules. What is a full blown 1450 or 1400 truck? Won't have a V6 that's for sure. 1450 and 1400 don't have rules. No rules = more options to go faster.


Besides that, on with the point of this thread...

Havn't heard much going on with the desert trucks running, but I did hear a rumor about monster trucks filling the place. Anyone got any info?

[McClintock]

digger digger digger

[FW.Productions]

Havn't heard much going on with the desert trucks running, but I did hear a rumor about monster trucks filling the place. Anyone got any info?

someone said over on DR that there would definetly not be monster trucks there.

[.CAL.Photo.]

digger digger digger
I didn't know helton was going?
:p :D

[napaman]

i think the course they set up this weekend would be a blast. a couple of long runs on the start. with a full field it would be quite a sight seeing all the trucks going for the holeshot and then everybody trying to push their way to the front on turn 3.

[PerrysFabnFiber]

I am guessing that desert trucks are not running? I haven't heard anything, and i am guessing that if they were, it would be all over the place, instead there is just a lot of speculation. I tried callling CORR before the last race down here to see if there were going to be desert races, left a message, and never got a call back.

Is there anyone that can say definitely that desert trucks will NOT be racing?

[negro3030]

well they are not on the race schedule so I would say this is a definate and with the Terribles Cup so close I sincerely doubt it...

[MSS]

Think about what you said.

Full blown 7 truck has rules. What is a full blown 1450 or 1400 truck? Won't have a V6 that's for sure. 1450 and 1400 don't have rules. No rules = more options to go faster.


Besides that, on with the point of this thread...

Havn't heard much going on with the desert trucks running, but I did hear a rumor about monster trucks filling the place. Anyone got any info?

Yes, but i think Robbie is correct up the current time. A full blown 7 (ie Rosseler) has not got beat by a 1450...

[DUNE DUMMY # 29]

So Yes Or No On Desert Trucks Racing This Weekend? We Will Be There As Spectators Either Way. Good Luck To All That Are Racing This Weekend. Go Coyne Motorsports!

[negro3030]

no desert trucks, look at the Corr website at the schedule of events, only pro2/4, pro-lite, super buggy, and single buggy...

[BlueCoyote]

I am guessing that desert trucks are not running? I haven't heard anything, and i am guessing that if they were, it would be all over the place, instead there is just a lot of speculation. I tried callling CORR before the last race down here to see if there were going to be desert races, left a message, and never got a call back.

Is there anyone that can say definitely that desert trucks will NOT be racing?

Have also made calls to CORR - no responce.
Any word on running desert (1400 / 1450 / 7 / 7s) trucks at CORR later this year or next year?

[BAPerf]

Have also made calls to CORR - no responce.
Any word on running desert (1400 / 1450 / 7 / 7s) trucks at CORR later this year or next year?

There is a good chance that there will be a couple "desert" classes at the last two Chula Vista Races!

[Greg]

News update!!!
Just talked to CORR yesterday. Its 99% official that there will be two classes at the last two CV races. The classes will be as mentioned before 1400/7 open and 1450/7s. Entry will be $250 for both days, 100% payback to third place. This is open to any truck that has previously raced MDR, SCORE, SNORE, MORE, VORRA, CORR (last year), ROR (if in te wheel-to-wheel classes) etc. The truck has just had to previously raced at a sanctioned event and been through thier tech. I will have more updates very soon.

[pappawheely]

Thanks for your hard work Greg!:D

[BHTool]

sounds great...

[BAPerf]

Billy,

Here's your chance for redemption!

[Greg]

Its official!! The 7s/1450 class will start both days at the Chula Vista track on the 22nd/23rd of Sept. at the CORR race. THe 7/1400 trucks will be the last race of each day. The entry will be $250 for both days with 100% payback split 50/30/20% to the top three finishers. Sat and Sun will be payed separately (spliting total purse between sat and sun). The rules are that the truck has to have been raced previously in SCORE, BITD, MDR, SNORE, ROR wheel-to-wheel, etc. All v8 trucks will be run in the 1400/7 class. There will be practice both days in the morning. The race will be either 15 laps or 15 minutes plus one lap. This race is to get guys on the course. There should be 40+ trucks coming out and the competition should be really, really good. Feel free to ask questions, as I and brian axup will be heading-up and organizing these two races.

[green787]

What time of day will the 7s class be running?

[billymanfroy]

Billy,

Here's your chance for redemption!

My truck's still pretty wadded from the Terrible's Cup. We've been working on a friend's buggy getting ready for my brother to race it in Hawthorne this weekend. My poor truck hasn't even been washed since Vegas. I need a new beam, figure out what went wrong in the steering (I'm thinking smashing it into a k-rail would be a problem), and a new body. I'm starting to think smoking crack with 4 hookers would be cheaper than racing. I would really love to come race with all you guys though.

[WFODAN]

Come on Billy .....


I have decided to finnally remove the V6 out of my truck and drop a smallblock in it , and I am trying to make it . I am starting the install this weekend . All I need to do is shoe horn it in and Make Motor/Trans mounts , wire, plumb , find a radiator/fan combo that will fit , make a driveshaft , Build intake and Headers/Exhaust , figure out a manual shifter inside the truck , oh ya , and get a manual trans for it also . The list goes on and on brother . Go get a beam and make it happen . Hope to see you there .

[Greg]

green 787, the 7s will be the first race of the day, should be around 11ish.

[BAPerf]

My truck's still pretty wadded from the Terrible's Cup... My poor truck hasn't even been washed since Vegas... I need a new beam, figure out what went wrong in the steering ..., and a new body... I would really love to come race with all you guys though.

So we'll see you back out here in September!?! Someone's got to show Mr. Vance what WFO really means...

[On The Edge Racing]

Just talked to CORR and the 1400 class is the last of the day. Somwhere around 4:00PM. Pratice is approxemately 4 hours long. My truck is done and I'll be.

[BAPerf]

Just talked to CORR and the 1400 class is the last of the day. Somwhere around 4:00PM. Pratice is approxemately 4 hours long. My truck is done and I'll be.

Just an FYI for anyone that has not raced or spectated at a CORR race... The practice timeframe of 4 hours is for all classes. Each class will practice seperate from the others, in their designated order. My guess is you'll get ~ 5-15 minutes of practice on Saturday/ Sunday, maybe more on Friday. Not sure if there is practice on Friday, I'll have to check with CORR.

Brian Axup

[On The Edge Racing]

Pratice is on Friday.

[Greg]

They will also have a short practice on both sat and sun morning.

[kevin bedrock graves]

practice is allways minimal,usually 3-5 laps at a time.friday you can usually get out there a couple of times.but basically the race is practice. the only bummer about corr is there too much down time practice or racing,but i'll still do it.:(

[BAPerf]

Pratice is on Friday.

Greg and I will both be at the track on the friday September 22 to tech the dezert trucks and answer any questions.

[green787]

There will be no 7s desert trucks there unless we can run after !:00 pm with the rest of the racers. We are not a warm up act...

[BAPerf]

The following statement is from me personally, and has nothing to do with CORR...

Why ask for the chance to race in Chula Vista then make a brash statement that you won't be racing if your not THE SHOW?

[BAPerf]

There will be no 7s desert trucks there unless we can run after !:00 pm with the rest of the racers. We are not a warm up act...


Oh, by the way, 7s/ 1450 is tentatively scheduled @ 1:18PM!

[green787]

green 787, the 7s will be the first race of the day, should be around 11ish.
I guess it was that post that made me think 7s would run in the morning....

[JBofSD]

I guess it was that post that made me think 7s would run in the morning....

If the heat continues like it is...be glad you will be able to run in the morning. It was over 105 when we ran in Chula Vista in July. Also everyone is the show..from 7s to Pro-4.

[pappawheely]

BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND - DESERT TRUCKS RETURN TO CORR FOR FINAL TWO RACE WEEKENDS



Newport Beach, CA (September 6, 2006)—Back by popular demand, desert trucks return to Championship Off Road Racing for the final two race weekends of the CORR Lucas Oil Racing Series, in Chula Vista at the Nissan Off Road Nationals on September 23-24, and The Nissan Shootout at the Otay Corral on October 21-22.



“The desert racers and trucks that compete in classes’ 7-7S and 1400-1450 provided the fans with a great show during the inaugural CORR races in Chula Vista last fall,” said Ken Zapp of Championship Off Road Racing. “Since then, we’ve been impressed by the groundswell of interest from the off road community and the enthusiasm of these racers, which convinced CORR to sanction the final four races of this season,” Zapp continued. “As for next year? We will definitely be watching the race truck turnout, on-track competition and fan reaction to this year’s events very closely.”



Desert classes 7S and 1450 will compete together to kick off the Nissan Off Road Nationals on September 23-24. Each day will conclude with the combined desert classes 7 and 1400 providing racers and fans alike with even more off-road excitement and entertainment value. To keep things interesting, CORR will payback 100% of the registration fees to the top four in each race, keeping driver motivation high and the competition intense.



Drivers can register for both a CORR license (required) and each race weekend online now at the CORR website (utilize “Sportsman Single Event” entry).



For more information please visit www.corracing.com

[BlueCoyote]

Drivers can register for both a CORR license (required) and each race weekend online now at the CORR website (utilize “Sportsman Single Event” entry).

For more information please visit www.corracing.com


Am I reading this right - besides the entry fee of $200 there is also a $125 fee for a Sportsman License? Is this good for a few years or just the rest of 2006?

Due to the recent announcement will the $100 late fee for any applications not received 14 days prior to an event be waived?

[sparkypyro]

Anyone have a link to the tracks website, not the CORR website.

[hoeker]

Am I reading this right - besides the entry fee of $200 there is also a $125 fee for a Sportsman License? Is this good for a few years or just the rest of 2006?

And do we also need the $125 Crew License?

Due to the recent announcement will the $100 late fee for any applications not received 14 days prior to an event be waived?

normally you need a corr drivers license wether you run one event or the season. your hot pit crew would also need to be licensed. i understand the biggest thing these fees cover are insurance charges.

corr may or may not be changing these rules for this race, good luck!

[Bill]

Ken call me (661)886-2877

[BAPerf]

Am I reading this right - besides the entry fee of $200 there is also a $125 fee for a Sportsman License? Is this good for a few years or just the rest of 2006?

Due to the recent announcement will the $100 late fee for any applications not received 14 days prior to an event be waived?

While I am unsure if the $100 late fee is applicable, the $125 Sportsman License is required. The $125 covers the insurance needed to operate the races. Ask Johnny Greaves if the $$$ he paid for the license was worth it! I'll do my best to find out if the late fee applys to these two classes.

Brian

[Greg]

Latest clarification on this race:

$200 entry fee
$125 ONE-TIME FOR 2006 driver insurance fee (Which includes NINE passes for your crew and friends and a vehicle pit pass)
Motorhomes are extra - please check the CORR site.

IMPORTANT NEWS: YOU MUST REGISTER EARLY!!!
This Friday (9/15) is the cut-off - register later and it will cost an extra $100 - so don't wait!

Okay, dezert people. This is your chance. Do you want to be a part of short course in California or not? Do you understand how lucky we are? It's pretty much up to YOU to show your support by entering, attending, and otherwise letting them know that you want them to keep letting us play with the big boys. This is a foot-in-the-door type of situation. WE know how bad-*** these classes can be and now we need to show the powers that be.

All forms are downloadable from the CORR site and apparently you can fax your paperwork in.
CORR WEBSITE (http://corracing.com )

[baja619]

Drivers can register for both a CORR license (required) and each race weekend online now at the CORR website (utilize “Sportsman Single Event” entry).

For more information please visit www.corracing.com

Championship Off Road Racing
270 Newport Center Drive, Suite 100
Newport Beach, CA 92660
(949) 467-2397
(949) 467-2399 fax
1-866-501-CORR
www.corracing.com

[Greg]

Actually, I just spoke with CORR and Terry will not be fielding tech related questions for THIS class for now. Myself and Brian (BAPERF) are consulting and doing tech to help get this class established.

FOR TECH QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS CLASS PLEASE CALL
BRIAN AXUP (951)283-1648

[billymanfroy]

Welp, I will be in SoCal that weekend, but unfortuantely it will be to indulge my other hobby. I will be going to a private birthday party on Friday at the Viper Room, and then spend the next day and night at the Playboy Mansion. It's a birthday party for a friend wo invented/markets/sells the portatble stripper pole that has become very popular in race trailers nationwide. The party at the mansion is called the "Bare Skin Mardi Gras" and the required dress code is beachwear. There will be at least a dozen Raiderettes and another dozen Playmates. The info I got in the mail says to bring plenty of beads, and that we are encouraged to tip the dancers. I promise, however, I will be sad that I can't make this race. I hope you all can forgive me just this once...

God, I love being me.

[BAPerf]

FYI... CORR has been kind enough to allow entries at the event this weekend with no $100 late fee for the 1400/ 7, and 1450/7s classes. If you can get your truck together by Saturday AM, bring it oout for some FUN!

[FW.Productions]

Just found this on the CORR website--

Rounds 13-14 of the CORR Lucas Oil Racing Series take place September 23rd and 24th in Chula Vista, CA, just outside of San Diego. In addition to the three pro classes—Pro 4, Pro 2, and Pro Lite, and the two buggy classes—Single Buggy and Super Buggy, desert Class 7 / 1400 and Class 7S /1450 will also compete. A Trophy-Kart exhibition will also take place, with kids ages 8-16 racing a smaller off-road track in mini Trophy Truck-type vehicles.

[ONE_RJ]

There are 15 Trophy Karts entered as today. They will race each day at 12:15,

Who else has one that is not entered?

[BAPerf]

There are 15 Trophy Karts entered as today. They will race each day at 12:15,

Who else has one that is not entered?

We should take delivery next week.

[bomber]

Brian, is there a specific time that 1450/7s racers must be present on Friday for practice? Also, do you know the additional charge for bringing a motorhome in for the weekend? Thanks.

[baja619]

CORR Facility is open friday 9:00am-9:00pm

Eack truck entered is allowed up to a 30x40 pit area. RV parking is additional cost not sure how much, but there is alot available

[bomber]

Thanks for the info Micah. Are the McNeils racing this event?

[BAPerf]

A couple of the McNeil's will be racing this weekend.

[baja619]

From FiberwerX:

TK McNeil
Joe Belt
Brandon Thompson
+
Looneys

Also Chad McNeil told me he would also be competing in his 7open

[bomber]

Sweet, I figured they would be invovled in this.

Brian, how many 1450 racers are registered to race this weekend? (sorry for all the ?'s)

[twillis]

I will be going to a private birthday party on Friday at the Viper Room, and then spend the next day and night at the Playboy Mansion. The party at the mansion is called the "Bare Skin Mardi Gras" and the required dress code is beachwear. There will be at least a dozen Raiderettes and another dozen Playmates. ...

God, I love being me.


PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS

[green787]

Well, call me a skeptic, but I had to see it to believe it.... two days in a row 7s desert trucks ran at about 1:24pm with a large crowd that was really into it... If you guys that are running that event can deliver that again... I can deliver the 7s mafia. I'm not saying that I am the ringleader or anything, it's just that we have become a very tight knit group and we do what the others do. If everyone decides to go... we go... right now we nearly all run at M.O.R.E. why? Because Jim@MORE treats us really good and is consistent with his program. You had us there at the track opening, John Holmes, Ken Kegal, Robert Real, Billy Manfroy, and quite a few others... but then we weren't invited back... I'm still a little curious as to why, but that is the track management's business. I just want the 7s class to be PART of the show.... not THE show... and if you can deliver once again, we will be there... en masse....
P.S. Even though 4000 tickets were given away to the military... all I saw there were hard core desert racing enthusiasts. After all, anything more than 1000 yards from the ocean is desert here in Southern California. Call it what you want CORR, Championship Off Road Racing, whatever... if it is here in So Cal it's desert racing.....

[blacktaco666]

Today was the second CORR race i've been to, and this time I took a bigger group of friends because they all wanted to see what i've been telling them about...Ahh yes, the desert truck race was pretty freakin awesome. The announcer kept saying how "these guys are most likely going to drive their trucks back home, and on their way back their wives might call them and ask them to stop by the store to pick up some milk and eggs" Sure the pro classes were sweeeeeet, but what I liked about the desert class is that you don't have to be a millionaire with your own fleet of helicopters and semi trucks, lol. Word of mouth people, word of mouth.

[BAPerf]

Well, call me a skeptic, but I had to see it to believe it.... two days in a row 7s desert trucks ran at about 1:24pm with a large crowd that was really into it... If you guys that are running that event can deliver that again... I can deliver the 7s mafia. I'm not saying that I am the ringleader or anything, it's just that we have become a very tight knit group and we do what the others do. If everyone decides to go... we go... right now we nearly all run at M.O.R.E. why? Because Jim@MORE treats us really good and is consistent with his program. You had us there at the track opening, John Holmes, Ken Kegal, Robert Real, Billy Manfroy, and quite a few others... but then we weren't invited back... I'm still a little curious as to why, but that is the track management's business. I just want the 7s class to be PART of the show.... not THE show... and if you can deliver once again, we will be there... en masse....
P.S. Even though 4000 tickets were given away to the military... all I saw there were hard core desert racing enthusiasts. After all, anything more than 1000 yards from the ocean is desert here in Southern California. Call it what you want CORR, Championship Off Road Racing, whatever... if it is here in So Cal it's desert racing.....


Well, the October race has the same format planned! Next year's classes will be determined by the attendance (desert classes) of the last race. If you missed this event, and don't come to the next one, don't be mad if CORR doesn't invite the classes back. Also, the classes will probably be split slightly different for October's race.

For those that didn't make it here's the results

1450/ 7s

Saturday Sunday

Michael Ballard Michael Ballard
John Deuth John Deuth
Joe Belt Peter Scully
Brian Cannon Rick Thomas
Jason Mount Jason Mount
Peter Scully Brandon Reaume
Brandon Reaume Brian Cannon
Perry McNeil Ryan Dowe
Holly Hoffman Joe Belt
Rick Thomas
Ryan Dowe


1400/7

Saturday Sunday

Biker Sherlock Biker Sherlock
Paul Lafreniere Javier Sacio
Cody Cantarini Cody Cantarini
Daniel Chamlee Paul Lafreniere
Tyler McNeil
Javier Sacio

Fastest lap Saturday was Biker Sherlock 1:25:.326
Fastest lap Sunday was Javier Sacio 1:24.227

On behalf of Greg and I, Thanks again to all who participated, hope you guys had fun...


Brian

[PerrysFabnFiber]

To Brian and Greg:

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Even though I was only able to run on saturday (blown motor), it was a blast. The course was a really fun course to race on. I think it has been the best short course track that I have raced on to date.

Also to CORR, thank you for having us. We should have a lot more entries for october with this much time to prepare.

Thanks Again.

[PerrysFabnFiber]

Greg,

just though I would put in a plug right now, and see if we can convince CORR before the october race.

Can we please run co drivers in october! That is part of the reason why desert racing is so much fun becuase you are able to share the racing experience with others.

Just thought I would start early in trying to get co drivers for october.

Thanks again for what you and Bryan did.

[bomber]

Greg and Brian,

Thank you very much for your efforts to get the desert trucks out there. It was a lot of fun and a great experience. I hope more trucks enter the October event so we can continue having this class race at CORR in the years to come. Thanks again for all the hard work.

- Jose -

[baja619]

Thanks to everyone that were involved in putting on / as well as participating in this event.

FiberwerX brought out three trucks, had a few problems on Saturday that led to two tranny changes and two rear end / axel issues. I twas def. worth all the work and prep time as we all had a great weekend regardless of the mechanical issues.

[On The Edge Racing]

If everbody gets together and calls CORR maybe the co-driver thing could happen