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klaus

January 4th, 2006, 19:11

stage 7 - Friday 6 January 2006 | Zouérat > Atâr (http://www.dakar.com/2006/DAK/LIVE/us/700/parcours.html)
Connection 10 km
Special 499 km
Connection 12 km
Total 521 km
A tricky pass

Navigational finesse will be rewarded during the major difficulty of this first week which will be contested off track. Absolutely off-track. Indications will be sparse on the road-book, and those who miss the WPM’s will have all their work cut out to find the right passes. After the dunes, competitors will be driving along stony plateaux and slaloming in camel grass.

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evi

January 5th, 2006, 10:58

Cool.... well see everyone again after midnight when the fun begins....

RRose

January 5th, 2006, 11:16

what time are the they off the line? (our time)

Chris_Wilson

January 5th, 2006, 11:37

Is the daily starting order based on the overall position or the finishing order of the
previous stage or ???

evi

January 5th, 2006, 12:55

From Eurosport.com :

LIAISON 10KM - STAGE 499KM - LIAISON 12KM

Nani Roma: "From here on, the Dakar gets really serious. We'll have to face dunes from the start, then there will be a series of hard tracks with a lot of stones, and then we'll have to cross two complicated dune chains. I think that the hardest Dakar is going to be from here to the Kiffa-Bamako stage."

Marc Coma: "This is start of the complications on a technical level, because we'll find camel grass and dune crossings, added to the already complicated navigation."

MOTO: START 08:20 CET - FINISH 15:30
AUTO: START 10:30 CET - FINISH 17:30

CET = Central Europe Time = GMT+1, so we would be CET-9= PST.... everybody got that?

So: MOTO = 11:20pm start
CARS = 1:30am start

And they start dependeding on their overall positions....

Chase 2

January 5th, 2006, 13:34

Is the daily starting order based on the overall position or the finishing order of the
previous stage or ???

Your start time is based upon your position from the previous stage, not overall position.

partybarge_pilot

January 5th, 2006, 20:22

What was that quote? " driving like a white boy through Glamis!" RG should do very well in the dunes, just like a holiday weekend at Glamis, only no beer and chicks......

01_el_tiburon

January 5th, 2006, 21:25

500 sand miles......Moving Day ?

omar

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 5th, 2006, 21:53

Blog updated.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 5th, 2006, 21:54

only no beer and chicks......

I guess he will have to settle for Jim Beam and Darren. LOL

ChuckH

January 5th, 2006, 22:08

Wow they really have Beef Jerky, soaked in JB :eek:

http://www.apostropher.com/blog/img/jimbeamjerky.jpg

desertbull

January 5th, 2006, 22:56

Blog updated.

Ab-so-lute-friggin-out-staandingggg---stuff right there!

Gracias!

desertbull

January 6th, 2006, 01:34

The bikes are off --- Despres is riding --- Grider/Blais showing with the leaders as they approach the first section of sand...Kick *** boyz

12:34 a.m.

DB

partybarge_pilot

January 6th, 2006, 01:42

Hmmmm, half to open new window for bikes.........

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 02:12

I notice today that "For the bikers, the start will take place in the reverse order of the previous stage." in the info column on the right side of the 'tracking' window.

SanoDano

January 6th, 2006, 02:21

Wow they really have Beef Jerky, soaked in JB :eek:

http://www.apostropher.com/blog/img/jimbeamjerky.jpg

yes they do.....and you should try their Sunflower Seeds soaked in JB:D

evi

January 6th, 2006, 02:45

Are you guys getting any tracking info on Sainz???? Since yesterdays stage he has appeared with the No Info, when he was in KM 244 or something like that...

This should be a very fun stage...

Later.

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 02:49

Wow. I've got four bikes on the screen right now (Grider, Despres, Coma, and Blais) and they look like ONE bike. I realize a km or two could be separating them, but it's cool.

Did the cars start in reverse order today, like the bikes?

EVI - I don't see Sainz either. Curious. Maybe his transponder isn't working. The first CP will tell.

partybarge_pilot

January 6th, 2006, 02:54

Wow. I've got four bikes on the screen right now (Grider, Despres, Coma, and Blais) and they look like ONE bike. I realize a km or two could be separating them, but it's cool.

Add fretigne and azevedo to that pile.

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 03:21

Add fretigne and azevedo to that pile.

Actually, I did just add Fretigne to the list to see how he is doing on that Yamaha. Reports yesterday were that he thought today might be a good day for him to stay up tight with the larger KTMs.

It's a tight group.

Looks like Miller and Gordon are right up there as well.

God, this is nuts. I have six screens going on three computers. (Revived an older laptop that seems to be chugging right along. It's slow, but WTH it keeps up with Iritrack. :) )

evi

January 6th, 2006, 03:21

looks like RG is running hot today, I have him already past several of the first 10 starters.. but we know now that the trakker is not that exact... lets see what happens in CP1...

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 03:33

Just noticed this in the sidebar on Iritrack -

"At km 100 of the car special, some of the favourites are struggling with navigation. It appears that Jean-Louis Schlesser, Giniel de Villiers and several other drivers have chosen the wrong way. Only two cars so far are in the correct direction: Stephane Peterhansel and Thierry Magnaldi."

I think that was about 8 min ago.

Marshall

January 6th, 2006, 03:36

Are the bikes not tracking for anyone else?

Marshall

January 6th, 2006, 03:40

nevermind

KeithTurk

January 6th, 2006, 04:19

http://tracking.dakar.com/VOLKSWAGEN/iritrack_v7_us.html

Whoever put this up yesterday thanks .... I can now follow 5 competitors instead of four.... and it only takes me a minute to kick out everyone BUT Miller and add my favorites.... Rauseo, Gordon, Extant, Street

I hate sitting here watching this... I want to be there...

Keith Turk

Hemp

January 6th, 2006, 04:53

well rg was looking very good but he seems to have stopped at 163 km for a while (25 minutes) and everyone else is moving....hope its just a glitch in the system

KeithTurk

January 6th, 2006, 04:58

I've got Schlesser at the same point as RG.... 163...

plantman

January 6th, 2006, 05:14

my tracking shows RG at163 SCHLESS at 208 with Miller

plantman

January 6th, 2006, 05:18

300 302 303 309 305 allpast CP1

KeithTurk

January 6th, 2006, 05:21

I just got the same tracking.... so essentially what thats telling me yet again... is that the tracking ... while interesting... isn't worth a damn...

KT

plantman

January 6th, 2006, 05:23

Looks That Way

desertbull

January 6th, 2006, 05:28

Allan,

Looks like Andy is faring well so far...Go Grider!!!!!!

I'm driving from OC out to El Centro this morning for some testing --- Cya later from the Motosat.

plantman

January 6th, 2006, 05:30

The live tracking clock on the VW[5 units] site is 15 minutes different than the Dakar site
RG seems to be stopped at 208

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 06:55

From Dakar.com

14:44 - bike
Grider quits race
US rider Andy Grider was forced to quit the Dakar after suffering a crash. The KTM Red Bull biker was taken by helicopter to the Atar medical centre but his injuries are not to serious.

Oh man that sucks, I hope he's ok.

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 07:03

From Dakar.com

14:56 - car
Miller crashes
US driver Marc Miller suffered a crash at km 310. The Vokswagen Race Touareg is on its roof. Both the driver and the co-driver are not injured.

Oh man that really sucks.

Harpo

January 6th, 2006, 07:04

Mark crashed and is reported upsidedown @ km310

tractoR

January 6th, 2006, 07:05

virtual overall standings after CP1 (cars)
1 302 ALPHAND (FRA) 19:01:35
2 303 KLEINSCHMIDT (ALL) 19:04:13 +0:02:38
3 300 PETERHANSEL (FRA) 19:06:56 +0:05:21
4 309 MILLER (USA)19:10:16 +0:08:41
5 305 DE VILLIERS (AFS) 19:19:54 +0:18:19
6 314 SCHLESSER (FRA) 19:30:52 +0:29:17
7 307 SAINZ (ESP) 19:32:49 +0:31:14
8 315 MAGNALDI (FRA) 19:40:08 +0:38:33
9 301 SABY (FRA) 19:41:06 +0:39:31
10 304 ROMA (ESP) 19:43:48 +0:42:13
11 322 CHICHERIT (FRA) 20:19:26 +1:17:51
12 311 SOUSA (POR) 20:47:22 +1:45:47
13 313 COX (AFS) 21:00:23 +1:58:48
14 317 GACHE (FRA) 21:09:28 +2:07:53
15 415 KAHLE (ALL) 21:48:18 +2:46:43
16 310 HENRARD (BEL) 22:31:52 +3:30:17
17 334 GUINOT (FRA) 22:43:34 +3:41:59
18 342 KOLBERG (BRE) 23:08:30 +4:06:55
19 340 DE LAVERGNE (FRA) 23:10:08 +4:08:33
20 420 SAUKANS (LET) 23:33:31 +4:31:56
21 335 GORDON (USA) 24:02:34 +5:00:59
22 408 GIBON (FRA) 24:47:15 +5:45:40
23 308 AL ATTIYAH (QAT) 25:18:32 +6:16:57

Ramsey_ElWardani

January 6th, 2006, 07:10

Could RG be helping MM? Both shown at the same Km where MM reported as crashed.

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 07:14

Could RG be helping MM? Both shown at the same Km where MM reported as crashed.

One would think so. Rg is far enough back that stopping for a short time wouldn't hurt today.

plantman

January 6th, 2006, 07:18

Shlesser was stopped there for a long time to

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 07:25

Shlesser was stopped there for a long time to

So has Saby

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 07:30

looks like rg is still there helping..hope all is well for the miller usa team

Bohr7

January 6th, 2006, 07:34

Is it possible that the VW is blocking the route? I'd rather believe RG is helping but with Saby not moving either..................

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 07:38

maybe saby being a fellow vw teamate is trying to get him back in the running

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 07:42

yo might be right tho cuz i see cars 310 and 317 are at the same point

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 07:45

as well as 322 and 334

Bohr7

January 6th, 2006, 07:47

Cicherit stopped as well and I think we can assume he ain't helpin' Mark..........LOL Poor Mark, hope they get this up and running in a just a moment. With Bruno and Robby I'm sure there's some herculean effort to getting it going.

Ramsey_ElWardani

January 6th, 2006, 08:33

They are all moving again after a long stop. It will be interesting to hear the story.

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 08:42

looks like the big truck of stacey #524 is running with them!!

sandracer33

January 6th, 2006, 08:48

Hey Bufeo..........Any updates on Andy? Just saw on the Dakar website he crashed and was out of race?

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 09:06

Hey Bufeo..........Any updates on Andy? Just saw on the Dakar website he crashed and was out of race?

None yet Lee. I'm trying to reach Annie and Neil, in Spain still. Don't know anything more than what we are all reading. I've got a couple of KTM links I'm sitting on and I've got them on auto/refresh every min.

Ramsey_ElWardani

January 6th, 2006, 09:07

Hope all is OK, sorry to see him out. Best Wishes!

sandracer33

January 6th, 2006, 09:08

Thanks Allen! Keep us posted.
Lee

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 09:49

Is RG stopped again? Dakar.com shows him 20km before CP2. Anyone hear anything?

tractoR

January 6th, 2006, 10:00

the gaps are getting wider, 2 days ago the first 10 racers were within 11', now they are within 2hrs+.
I don't think the pace is going to get any slower yet for the next couple stages.

provisional overall classif. after CP2
1 302 ALPHAND (FRA) MITSUBISHI 20:54:26
2 303 KLEINSCHMIDT (ALL) VOLKSWAGEN 20:56:31 +00:02:05
3 300 PETERHANSEL (FRA) MITSUBISHI 20:58:16 +00:03:50
4 305 DE VILLIERS (AFS) VOLKSWAGEN 21:14:54 +00:20:28
5 307 SAINZ (ESP) VOLKSWAGEN 21:36:08 +00:41:42
6 304 ROMA (ESP) MITSUBISHI 21:44:18 +00:49:52
7 314 SCHLESSER (FRA) SCHLES-FORD-RAID 22:00:48 +01:06:22
8 315 MAGNALDI (FRA) SCHLES-FORD-RAID 22:10:06 +01:15:40
9 311 SOUSA (POR) NISSAN 22:55:31 +02:01:05
10 309 MILLER (USA) VOLKSWAGEN 23:12:10 +02:17:44
11 322 CHICHERIT (FRA) BMW 23:16:05 +02:21:39
12 301 SABY (FRA) VOLKSWAGEN 23:21:55 +02:27:29
13 313 COX (AFS) BMW 23:55:45 +03:01:19
14 415 KAHLE (ALL) HONDA 00:36:16 +03:41:50
15 310 HENRARD (BEL) VOLKSWAGEN 02:02:01 +05:07:35

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 10:04

Deleted post. Erroneous. Sorry. Guess my head's dingy.

P.S. I just heard from Anne a few minutes ago. They don't know any more than we do about Andy. Just the reports of being taken to Atar. They (Anne, Neil, +) are still in Spain and will return to Lisboa to fly down to Senegal.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 10:09

Thanks for the info, not too bad considering he must have stopped for MM . Just curious where you got the info from.

Thanks again...

Ramsey_ElWardani

January 6th, 2006, 10:22

This is like watching old news reels about the war or having to wait for a letter in the mailbox. We have gotten so accustomed to instant access to almost everything. The suspense is good for the heart, isn’t it?

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 10:24

i believe thats stage 6 results.

curtnrod19

January 6th, 2006, 10:25

whats the deal with RG and Blais they both have been stoped for awhile now..???? any news on them at all?

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 10:27

Grider is out, don't know about RG yet.

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 10:30

i believe thats stage 6 results.

I think you're right. I need to stop posting for a bit until the caffeine kicks in. Sorry for the confusion. I went back and deleted that post so I wouldn't muck up the works.

The KTM site shows that Blais came in 13th today. (Yeah, I checked twice this time. It's the results for Stage 7.)

desertjunky

January 6th, 2006, 10:32

what is robbys support truck number?

bufeo

January 6th, 2006, 10:44

UPDATE on Andy

Just got off the phone with Anne and they had spoken with Joe Barker, Team Mgr. Andy has no visible broken bones, no obvious head injury, but he was complaining of severe 'lower extremity' pain at the crash site, which is why they air-lifted him to Atar.

Now under the auspices of the Race Meds, he has been flown to the Canary Is where there are better med facilities. There he will be examined further. Early prognosis is that there may be a pelvic fracture, so they want more x-rays.

Decisions later on the next step. The Race Meds may fly him to Paris.

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 10:44

I heard Thopson is one of the drivers, but I can't find him so not sure the number.
It is suposed to be a marcedes.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 10:48

I think you're right. I need to stop posting for a bit until the caffeine kicks in. Sorry for the confusion. I went back and deleted that post so I wouldn't muck up the works.

The KTM site shows that Blais came in 13th today. (Yeah, I checked twice this time. It's the results for Stage 7.)

ahh no worries, I think we're all just looking for info....

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 10:53

what is robbys support truck number?

looks like #858

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 11:01

looks like Miller finished....

RANKING STAGE CAR Pos. N° Name Make Time Variation Penalty
1 300 PETERHANSEL (FRA)
COTTRET (FRA) MITSUBISHI 05:52:18 00:00:00
2 302 ALPHAND (FRA)
PICARD (FRA) MITSUBISHI 05:56:41 00:04:23
3 303 KLEINSCHMIDT (ALL)
PONS (ITA) VOLKSWAGEN 06:04:07 00:11:49
4 305 DE VILLIERS (AFS)
THORNER (SUE) VOLKSWAGEN 06:08:47 00:16:29
5 307 SAINZ (ESP)
SCHULZ (ALL) VOLKSWAGEN 06:27:02 00:34:44
6 304 ROMA (ESP)
MAGNE (FRA) MITSUBISHI 06:33:01 00:40:43
7 314 SCHLESSER (FRA)
BORSOTTO (FRA) SCHLES-FORD-RAID 07:06:42 01:14:24
8 415 KAHLE (ALL)
SCHUENEMANN (ALL) HONDA 07:28:15 01:35:57
9 311 SOUSA (POR)
LURQUIN (BEL) NISSAN 07:28:31 01:36:13
10 315 MAGNALDI (FRA)
DEBRON (FRA) SCHLES-FORD-RAID 07:34:17 01:41:59
11 322 CHICHERIT (FRA)
BAUMEL (FRA) BMW 07:37:11 01:44:53
12 325 MITSUHASHI (JAP)
DUBOIS (FRA) NISSAN 07:44:58 01:52:40
13 309 MILLER (USA)
VON ZITZEWITZ (ALL) VOLKSWAGEN 08:06:54 02:14:36
14 308 AL ATTIYAH (QAT)
GUEHENNEC (FRA) BMW 16:25:30 10:33:12

desertjunky

January 6th, 2006, 11:02

looks like #858

i do not see a 858 on the tracker am i missing something?

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 11:04

I don't think they entered their support vehicle, I seem to think they're still registered as a support vehicle. I could be wrong.

Offspring

January 6th, 2006, 11:06

Truck 511 is shown at same spot as RG.

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 11:19

I don't think they entered their support vehicle, I seem to think they're still registered as a support vehicle. I could be wrong.

They have two support truck but neither is entered. They "rented space" on a truck that is entered.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 11:30

looks like Bailey is at Rob's location, per Dakar.com.

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 11:32

They have two support truck but neither is entered. They "rented space" on a truck that is entered.

Do you now the number of the truck with the rented space?

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 11:36

Do you now the number of the truck with the rented space?

I've been searching and asking around but have yet to find out.

RacingOne

January 6th, 2006, 11:57

Robby is moving, currently at 356km, don't if being towed or not.

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 12:02

Then his rented space might be on 533 or 565, they are in the spot he was in for the long time.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 12:45

looks like they're moving; slowly but moving.....

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 12:49

well here it is:
TEAM DAKAR USA > News > Stage Report
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Stage 7 Update:

Driver Robby Gordon and navigator Darren Skilton are currently held up on the route between Zouérat and Atâr. Early reports indicate that there is significant damage to the front end of the Hummer H3 including the radiator. One of Team Dakar USA 's 4X4 support trucks is on its way to the Hummer which is 365km into the 512km stage. Gordon had been making steady progress, reaching the first checkpoint with the 11th best time which matched his starting position for the stage.

American Mark Miller, who took over the seat for Gordon in the Red Bull Volkswagen, suffered an incident at km 310. Miller and co-driver Dirk Von Zitzewitz reportedly had landed on the roof of their Volkswagen Touareg. In 2005 Von Zitzewitz and Gordon teamed up for a 12th place overall finish after a similar incident which saw the duo barrel roll through the African desert. Upon arriving at the scene of Miller’s crash, Gordon and Skilton pulled over to lend assistance to the Volkswagen team – eventually getting them back on their wheels and continuing on until Gordon’s most recent incident. Miller has gone on to complete the stage which was won by Stephane Peterhansel.

RRose

January 6th, 2006, 12:59

is dakarusa.com down for everyone? I'm anxious to hear the update.

curtnrod19

January 6th, 2006, 13:24

is dakarusa.com down for everyone? I'm anxious to hear the update.

Nope it works just fine for me..

RacrDude

January 6th, 2006, 13:33

I think I'm cursed. First a buddy ask me about Rob, my reply " I hope the tranny holds"...the next day...the $2 bolt issue. THIS morning, I'm looking at the monster pictures thinking wow, where is the front skid plate...that radiator sure hangs out in the wind. DAMN IT!!!!! Sorry FlyHi....

RRose

January 6th, 2006, 13:57

My tracker shows miller finished... so apparently he was able to the get the car righted and on the way again?

Ryan_Arciero

January 6th, 2006, 14:32

I just talked to Mark about an hour ago. He said it was a mother f'er of a stage. He did go over onto his roof but he said he ended up landing on all fours. He also went onto his side earlier in the stage going over a dune. They got it uprighted and moved on. He said they got lost a couple of times and that the road book was horrible.

Another day in the paradise called Dakar.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 15:11

looks like RG is rolling again, man what a day he and Darren have had.

PBR

January 6th, 2006, 15:13

sorry to hear about andy... give him and his family our best!!!

thanks for the mark updates ryan... tell him we are all pulling for him!!!

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 15:20

sorry to hear about andy... give him and his family our best!!!

thanks for the mark updates ryan... tell him we are all pulling for him!!!

Hope he's not too badly injured and able to recover quickly.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 15:25

looks like RG is rolling again, man what a day he and Darren have had.

On a hook I bet.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 15:40

not looking good guys....
Stage 7 Update: ROBBY GORDON HUMMER CRASHES ON 7th DAY OF DAKAR RALLY

American racer Robby Gordon’s effort to win the famed Dakar Rally may have come to an abrupt end in the vast sand dunes of the North African desert today. Gordon and Navigator Darren Skilton were making the fast and dangerous run from Zouerat to Atar in their Hummer H3 on the seventh day of the two-week event when they crashed heavily on the face of a huge sand dune.

Both Gordon and Skilton emerged unscathed but the Hummer’s radiator was destroyed and the clutch was shattered trying to extract the car from the grip of the huge dune. The rules of the event dictate that any race team receiving outside-assistance is automatically disqualified, so the chances are that even if Gordon can extract the car, the fact he had to rebuild the car on site with parts brought in by his crew may well eliminate him from the race. Gordon was in touch with his chase crew and had given them GPS coordinates as to the Hummer’s location, but maps do not show any roads leading to the area. There are faint tracks across the desert, but are not permanent so anyone trying to locate Gordon and Skilton is doing so under the most difficult circumstances.

The organizing body of the Lisbon-Dakar event has given the Gordon team special codes to allow their GPS system to function in the area and at least get them to a place called Check Point 2, where Gordon was headed when he crashed. From there the crew would have to back track on the faintly marked course for some 14 kms to find the area of dunes where the Hummer is marooned.

It’s night now and without local guides to help the crew backtrack from CP2, the chances of finding Gordon before daylight are slim. Gordon had been making remarkable time in the last two days of the rally, recovering from transmission failure on the third day of the event, which had dropped the Jim Beam and Toyo Tire sponsored Hummer from 14th to 124th. Gordon’s crew worked round the clock to have him ready for the next day’s dawn start and Gordon responded by moving up to 45th.

Another all-night thrash by Gordon’s ace crew, to make even further repairs to the Hummer, finally gave Gordon one of the fastest cars in the race and he climbed to 11th in the standings, a position he’d used for this morning’s start on the run from Zouerat to Atar. Gordon had roared through Check Point 1 still in 11th but was expected to close on the Top-10 race leaders in the final portion of the day’s run because the conditions of the course in that area were so favorable to the Hummer’s chassis. The line through the dunes was expected to delay many race competitors and there were reports of many crashes in the area.

It was not a good day for American racers. Top KTM motorcycle team rider Andy Grider from California was airlifted out with a broken femur, as result of a crash in the dunes. California desert racer Mark Miller, driving for VW this year rolled his Touareg but still managed to finish 15th, down from 3rd overall yesterday.

RacrDude

January 6th, 2006, 15:56

So even if your own support truck shows up, you can not unload parts from it to fix the race car?? WTF?? That is a total bummer!!! Good job to Mark for finishing today, hope Andy has a speedy recovery.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 16:08

Updated status on Blog

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 16:16

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 16:19

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 16:27

This is starting to sound like this may be the end, I don't see how they will get to the next stage in time.
Unless there is a day off tomarow.

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 16:38

I thought it was like BITD any help must be in the race, why didn't they register tone of the other trucks?

Now he is going backwards, it said 370 and a time for going through CP2 now he is back at 360.

If hes out and they are yanking him out on a strap, it may be faster to get out by what appears to be backwards on the tracker. This would be esp. true in the dunes.

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 16:47

I can see that being the case, but about the auto DQ, is that the stage or the race? And if he is not at the line for the next start then done. That should only be a few hours from now isn't it?

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 17:05

ok a little more of a twist....

TEAM DAKAR USA
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Stage 7 Update

TEAM DAKAR USA > News > Stage Report
Posted by on Jan 6, 2006, 14:41

Earlier reports from Africa indicated that Robby Gordon and his Hummer H3 Dakar effort had "crashed heavily" while competing in the seventh stage of the famed Dakar Rally. There was no crash, and communication directly from Gordon and his navigator Darren Skilton indicate, that while the car is down for repairs, it is for a broken radiator and clutch problem. While night has arrived in Mauritania, and repairs are obviously difficult, every effort is being made to return the Hummer to competition when the race resumes Sunday. Saturday is a day off for all competitors. An overall victory is clearly impossible, however, should Gordon and Skilton make the necessary and expected repairs to the vehicle, the tandem will have eight more race days in which to secure stage victories. More information will be provided regarding the status of the repairs as they are made available.

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 17:09

also looks like he finally completed the stage? was given a 1 hour penalty.

101 335 GORDON (USA)
SKILTON (USA) HUMMER 18:00:00 12:07:42 01:00:00

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 17:25

also looks like he finally completed the stage? was given a 1 hour penalty.

101 335 GORDON (USA)
SKILTON (USA) HUMMER 18:00:00 12:07:42 01:00:00

Perhaps Ryan could explain this, but it looks to be that everyone from 74th place back on today’s stage was all given the same time (the maximum time allotted) and a 1hr penalty. I don’t think that he has nessessarily made it to the finish. If he doesn’t present himself at the start line for the next stage he is DQed.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 17:41

If he doesn’t present himself at the start line for the next stage he is DQed.

That's the "Mini Battle" right now.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 17:48

allwaysbaja

January 6th, 2006, 17:50

Perhaps Ryan could explain this, but it looks to be that everyone from 74th place back on today’s stage was all given the same time (the maximum time allotted) and a 1hr penalty. I don’t think that he has nessessarily made it to the finish. If he doesn’t present himself at the start line for the next stage he is DQed.

Yeah I realized that after I posted that, my bad. Let's see what happens.
Thanks for the info.

Jack

January 6th, 2006, 18:49

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 18:54

Don't they have one more stage before the rest day?

Yes... Lets hope the make it there

dezracer9

January 6th, 2006, 19:05

any updates? they are running short of time...

Ryan_Arciero

January 6th, 2006, 19:40

racinteach

January 6th, 2006, 21:15

Any news from the gordan camp? or do we wait till tomorrow to find out ?

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 21:38

Craig, as long as you present yourself to the start of the next days stage and you take the start you will still be allowed to continue. This happened to me last year on Stage 7. They told me as long as I made it to the start of stage 8 I was ok, but you do get the time penalty for not finishing the stage in the alloted time just like you said.

So Ryan, the final question is when do you actually get DQed? If you are not at the start line at your designated starting time, you get an additional penalty (as any normal day) or would you get DQed at that point. In other words would they allow you untill the last in your class leaves the start line before DQing you?

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 6th, 2006, 22:10

So Ryan, the final question is when do you actually get DQed? If you are not at the start line at your designated starting time, you get an additional penalty (as any normal day) or would you get DQed at that point. In other words would they allow you untill the last in your class leaves the start line before DQing you?

Update on the Blog. Special Thanks to NASA

elsancho1976

January 6th, 2006, 22:32

fly.... i was wondering if you could share the track points for the course with us (errrr. myself )

Chase 2

January 6th, 2006, 22:37

Update on the Blog. Special Thanks to NASA
2127.981N, 1213.577W aren't lat/lon format. The number should read something like N 21 degrees 27.981min, W 12 degrees 13.577min. (can't figure out how to get the degree symbol on my key board) Try Google Earth it gives a better view. Basically he's in the middle of a large set of dunes.

elsancho1976

January 6th, 2006, 22:45

copy and paste 21.27981N, 12.13577W you may have to adjust your setings to dd.mmmm, dd.mmmm

elsancho1976

January 6th, 2006, 22:46

the ge image is of poor resolution. world wind wins on this one imo

elsancho1976

January 6th, 2006, 23:20

does anyone have any info on how much time it would take to swap a clutch on the Albins Tranny

duchessofthedirt

January 7th, 2006, 00:23

OK, so here is what I know and someone can correct me if I'm wrong... out of the 140 cars that started only 70 had finished by about 4 - 6pm. The other 70 stranded out on the course were given 18 hours for the stage and a one hour penalty. The start isn't delayed, but they have until approximately mid-morning to be at the start line - due to 70 other vehicles that will for sure start before them. So, if they fix the problem and can get there in time they can run tomorrow. I believe they are headed to Noukchatt (sp?) and once they arrive, they have a rest day following. Hopefully they can make it - then they would have some time to rest and fix the car. Darrens Dad spoke with him earlier and haven't heard from them since - Darren didn't want to run the sat phone battery down. So, I haven't talked to him at all. We don't know if they are still out there or if they made it in. If I get any late night phone calls, I will post first thing in the morning.
All the best to Andy and I hope that he is doing OK. Canary Islands... could be no better place to be if you have to be in a hospital.

klaus

January 7th, 2006, 02:24

Dakar Rally, leg 7, 6 January 2006

Volkswagen hold third, fourth and fifth after tough stage

Wolfsburg (6 January 2006). Volkswagen occupies third, fourth and fifth places following the Dakar Rally’s extremely tough seventh stage and remains in a promising position. Jutta Kleinschmidt defended third overall in her Race Touareg 2 on the 521 kilometre stage from Zouerat to Atar in Mauretania by recording third fastest time behind new leader Luc Alphand and his Mitsubishi team mate Stéphane Peterhansel. The other Volkswagen works drivers suffered setbacks: Giniel de Villiers, who had taken the lead yesterday, dropped to fourth after making a navigational error. Carlos Sainz got bogged down in the dunes and is now fifth. Mark Miller lost 2:15 hours after rolling, and Bruno Saby lost 2:30 hours owing to a defect.
Kris Nissen (Volkswagen Motorsport Director) "The drivers of the blue cars got off lightly today. The most important thing is that both Mark Miller and Dirk von Zitzewitz are unharmed following their accident. We saw that the Race Touareg 2 can keep the pace, but tyre failures and navigational errors cost us too much time.
It’s still wide open; the gap between the cars is comparably small. The rally is far from over and remains tense.”

#303 - Jutta Kleinschmidt (D), 3rd place (day) / 3rd position overall "Holding onto third place after suffering three tyre failures means that we got off lightly. We didn’t only have to reduce the tyre pressures before the climbing the dunes but also had to inflate them again after as we had no more spare tyres.”

#305 - Giniel de Villiers (RSA), 4th place (day) / 4th position overall "The navigation was really difficult today. We got lost, along with the two buggies in front of us, after 20 kilometres. We only got back on track again after spotting a helicopter on the horizon. We also suffered a rear left puncture."

#307 - Carlos Sainz (E), 6th place (day) / 5th position overall "After 80 kilometres we ran on a flat plane in the dunes, made a small jump and got bogged down on landing. We needed 25 minutes for 20 metres, a completely new experience for me. The navigation was no problem for us.”

Editorial note:
An updated press release including additional comments and the revised results follows after the arrival of Bruno Saby and Mark Miller in the bivouac.

From the Volkswagen bivouac

- Marathon day for escorting armada: The Dakar Rally’s sixth stage from Tan Tan to Zouerat was the hardest to date for the support team: Almost half of the 750-kilometre long service route was driven "off-road”.
Helmets are also compulsory for the team members riding in the support vehicles off the paved roads. After the team arrived at the stage finish in Zouerat after 14 to 16 hours drive it started immediately with the evening routine-service on the five Race Touareg 2 prototypes.

- Acid test for Service-Touareg: For the first time ever at the Dakar Rally, Volkswagen relies on ten Touareg V6 TDI vehicles in the escort armada. The ten vehicles modified for service requirements passed their first acid test on the off-road stage. "We’d already fared extremely well with the Touareg V10 TDI in the desert. The new Service-Touaregs have also proved themselves”, explained service vehicle Project Manager Chris Beck. "The new V6 TDI is lighter and has a longer range thanks to its lower fuel consumption. We have also improved the suspension.”

- Volkswagen team top-fit: The Volkswagen Motorsport team is still in excellent health after seven days of rallying. "The entire team is top-fit, although the physical demands made by the long daily stages, working in the heat and dust and camping in the desert at night in low temperatures are very high”, adds Beate Zerbe, who follows the rally as Volkswagen Team Doctor. The medic has only had to deal with a few cases of flu until now. "Certainly one of the reasons for the excellent state of health is the fact that the team members take precautions, eat healthily and make sure that they only drink bottled water.
Additionally, there is an excellent bond of trust within the team, and the driver teams and service personnel report to me at the first sign of any weakness or if they don’t feel one-hundred per cent.”

Standings after stage 7, Zouerat (MR) - Atar (MR); 499/521 km stage 7/total

Pos., Team, Vehicle, Stage 7, Total time
1. Luc Alphand/Gilles Picard (F/F), Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution;
5:56:41 hrs. (2.) 22:32:41 hrs.
2. Stéphane Peterhansel/Jean-P. Cottret (F/F), Mitsubishi Pajero
Evolution; 5:52:18 hrs. (1.) + 3.12 min.
3. Jutta Kleinschmidt/Fabrizia Pons (D/I), Volkswagen Race Touareg 2;
6:04:07 hrs. (3.) + 5.58 min.
4. Giniel de Villiers/Tina Thörner (RSA/S), Volkswagen Race Touareg 2;
6:08:47 hrs. (4.) + 10.04 min.
5. Carlos Sainz/Andreas Schulz (E/D), Volkswagen Race Touareg 2;
6:27:02 hrs. (6.) + 28.41 min.
6. Nani Roma/Henri Magne (E/F), Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution; 6:33:01
hrs. (7.) + 45.44 min.
7. Jean-L. Schlesser/François Borsotto (F/F), Schlesser-Ford; 7:06:42
hrs. (8.) + 1:09:01 hrs.
8. Thierry Magnaldi/Arnaud Debron (F/F), Schlesser-Ford; 7:34:17 hrs.
(9.) + 1:43:44 hrs.
9. Guerlain Chicherit/Matthieu Baumel (F/F), BMW X3; 7:37:11 hrs.
(12.) + 2:18:57 hrs.
10. Carlos Sousa/Jean-Marie Lurquin (P/B), Nissan Pick-up; 7:28:31 hrs.
(10.) + 2:45:38 hrs.

Public website about Volkswagen’s Dakar entry: www.volkswagen-motorsport.com

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 7th, 2006, 06:03

2127.981N, 1213.577W aren't lat/lon format. The number should read something like N 21 degrees 27.981min, W 12 degrees 13.577min. (can't figure out how to get the degree symbol on my key board) Try Google Earth it gives a better view. Basically he's in the middle of a large set of dunes.

I converted to Jpeg. image on the blog (lose res). there are several geo filters on Nasa that really reveil the terrain better (Like radar and a ton other) but they too techy looking for the general public. They are in the middle of nowhere!

Chase 2

January 7th, 2006, 06:22

I converted to Jpeg. image on the blog (lose res). there are several geo filters on Nasa that really reveil the terrain better (Like radar and a ton other) but they too techy looking for the general public. They are in the middle of nowhere!

I just downloaded world wind. Like sancho says it is much better than Google Earth.

FlyHiFlyLo7

January 7th, 2006, 06:31

I just downloaded world wind. Like sancho says it is much better than Google Earth.

Get with the Times Big Dawg!...LOL Now go get the Dakar layer from the World Wind message board.

http://forum.worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/lofiversion/index.php?t5434.html