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All-Out Motorsports
December 13th, 2005, 10:06
(I've posted this in DezertRangers.com as well just wanted to see if I'd get a different response here, Thanks)

Hi Guys and Girls,

I have a quick question for you all. Would any of you be interested in Urethane fenders, bedsides, Hoods, maybe even full cabs (depending on the demand)? The Urethane, that would be used to create the fenders and such, is a hard yet flexible plastic that is partially indestructible. It would be lighter and stronger then current fiberglass being used for a bout the same price. If you were to ever roll, smack a tree, or any other misfortune (god forbid), normally if hit hard enough your fiberglass will crack/shatter if you were to be using Urethane then it would just have some scratches.

The reason I ask is I was taking my friend to drop off his car, at a friends shop, that builds and designs bodykits for aftermarket and OEM. The owner quickly took an interest in my truck, (front and rear glass) and wanted to know if he were to make them would people by them. He was thinking of creating them in fiberglass as well but the fiberglass that they use on bodykits is a lot thinner and wouldn’t be able to stand the tests of time on an offroad vehicle.

Now a lil info on the company and there process

MODELING
In the modeling stage, our modelers make the actual “shape” of the approved design sent from our design center. We won’t have any products without skilled modelers since they are the ones who bring the design into life by creating an exact model.

MOLDING
Molding is the first step in the actual production stage. Once the model is approved, our technicians at the main workshop make the molding of each products. This procedure is done very carefully so that each and every piece we produce has an exact same shape, strength, and most importantly, quality.

TESTING
Our very first polyurethane prototype went through the toughest tests to see if they’ll really withstand the impact and the abuse that could occur in evryday life. Unique polyurethane raw material we use has such characteristics as ultra high memory and impact resistant. To test the product strength, we stored our prototype products in flattened, twisted, and bent shaped for months. Sometimes, drive them over with forlkifts, cars, and trucks to see if they’ll crack. Flattened, twisted, and bent products will re-shape its self back under direct sunlight or by use of the heat lamps.

WHO IS .....??
............Corporation is one of the oldest and largest aerodynamics body kit manufactures in Japan.

Since 1970, ........ Corporation worked with various OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) companies in designing and manufacturing the aero kits using the latest technology, “Super Polyurethane” (SPU) material. .........Corporation in Japan have been known for an affordability and ultra high quality material that’s proven by many major auto manufactures in last 35 years. That makes us the leader and #1 in Japanese Aero industry.

(I took their name out due to it just being easyier haha)

Thanks for your opinions in advance :thumbup: :)

highlandraceteam
December 13th, 2005, 10:18
Make me some for a 98 Jeep Cherokee and ill test em and even advertise for you.

ShaneR
December 13th, 2005, 10:22
Urethane is used on all most all body kits now and seems to hold up very well. On my brothers road race CRX we replaced the front bumper cover after the fiberglass one had been damaged so many times that it wasn't worth reparing it again. I was able to mount it with zues's using the longer style as it is thicker than the fiberglass. It has held up great and has been bent bad enough to crack fiberglass several times and still holds it's shape and looks good. Only question's I have would be that I did not weight the old fiberglass one but the urethane seems to weight more, and with fiberglass you can do repairs what if you hit a tree branch and put a hole in the urethane, what is the repair process and how hard is it to do and make it look good?

All-Out Motorsports
December 13th, 2005, 11:52
Urethane is used on all most all body kits now and seems to hold up very well. On my brothers road race CRX we replaced the front bumper cover after the fiberglass one had been damaged so many times that it wasn't worth reparing it again. I was able to mount it with zues's using the longer style as it is thicker than the fiberglass. It has held up great and has been bent bad enough to crack fiberglass several times and still holds it's shape and looks good. Only question's I have would be that I did not weight the old fiberglass one but the urethane seems to weight more, and with fiberglass you can do repairs what if you hit a tree branch and put a hole in the urethane, what is the repair process and how hard is it to do and make it look good?


Hey Shane, thanks for the great feedback on urethane. :thumbup: Oh the repairs to be honest I have no clue haha I'll contract the company that makes them to find out. Thanks for your interest.

-Harley

knucklemeat
December 19th, 2005, 00:19
sound interesting but i also would be curious if there was a huge weight difference . if the material is the same as factory urethane bumpers repairs should't be too tough(plastic-weld i think)bumper shop fix those thing all the time.

ChuckH
December 19th, 2005, 03:29
(WHO IS .....??...........Corporation, )

initials JP ;) :D

MNGSX
December 19th, 2005, 03:41
Just be sure to make raised and flared fullsize chevy fenders and bedsides the first fitment!

If you have some beta units ready let me know.. I'll give them the old MN enviromental test.. sand, salt, water, snow, Ice, hail, -40 degrees, 120 degrees, straighline winds.... Then I'll go off road...

Scrapiron
December 19th, 2005, 12:55
How well will paint stick? I have yet to see any plastic that will flex and hold paint.

All-Out Motorsports
December 19th, 2005, 13:04
(WHO IS .....??...........Corporation, )

initials JP ;) :D


?? how did you??... well yea its a company called JP USA. there website is www.jpusaco.com


as far as being able to fix them I'm looking in to that. as for the paint being able to stick, it sticks fine but your right about when it flexes it will crack I'm talking to the owner of the company to discuss these issues and concerns as to how he can fix them or if he cant I'll keep you updated. Thanks

ChuckH
December 19th, 2005, 13:08
Q, How well will paint stick? I have yet to see any plastic that will flex and hold paint

The front and rear of almost ever car is urethane, body shops have been repairing it and painting it for over 20 years.

MNGSX
December 20th, 2005, 22:15
?? how did you??... well yea its a company called JP USA. there website is www.jpusaco.com


as far as being able to fix them I'm looking in to that. as for the paint being able to stick, it sticks fine but your right about when it flexes it will crack I'm talking to the owner of the company to discuss these issues and concerns as to how he can fix them or if he cant I'll keep you updated. Thanks

Same as fiberglass or a stock car nose cone paint job.

Just put some flex agent in the paint.

jeff
December 22nd, 2005, 18:48
I've got a set of urethane fender flares sitting in my office... factory paint matched and you can twist them into a pretzel shape and the paint could care less. If the proper paint is sprayed over the right primer I see no reason to worry about the paint cracking, no worse than fiberglass.

Now if you were talking Rubbermaid, I'd be in. "Don't you wish everything was made like Rubbermaid?"

Aloha

ChuckH
December 22nd, 2005, 19:11
Now if you were talking Rubbermaid, I'd be in. "Don't you wish everything was made like Rubbermaid?"

Aloha

Rubbermaid ...it could be done, kayaks are made out of the same plastic and you can color it before you melt it into the mold so you wouldn't have to worry about scratching the color off, you can slide it over rocks repeatedly and it barely hurts it.

Racbaja
December 22nd, 2005, 23:45
Don't forget about a baja one piece front end.

Brutpwr
March 20th, 2006, 00:42
I'd be very interested in such a product. I've never had a fiberglass product not crack. Even the hood on my Camero is cracking!

Jason :)