Can't stop me!!!!

[lump-dog]

What's it going to take to stop my Supercrew well? I'm going with Cone spindles, and I'll be running 37" tires. Do I "NEED" 6 piston calipers, or will a set of wilwood 4 piston superlights do the job? What size rotors are going to do the job? Somewhere theres a fine line between a $2000 set of calipers and something that will do the job nearly as well..... any help?

While we're on it, what brake setup should I run in the rear (w/ a full floater) to complement the front brakes?

-lump

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

14" rotors. Period the end.

4 piston 6 piston... whatever. Use 14 inch rotors.

Run the exact same 4 piston Superlites(1.5 min piston) front and rear with the exact same hubs, snouts, rotor adapters and 14"x1.25 ROTORS. This setup will stop anything. And spares are good to go.

Infact you can get the calipers cheap on e-bay.

Use cast Rotors...Don't buy billet steel rotors they warp very easily.

[knucklemeat]

on a similar subject(sorry to hi-jack)what master cylinder setup would work best with those calipers?

[lump-dog]

14" rotors. Period the end.

4 piston 6 piston... whatever. Use 14 inch rotors.

Run the exact same 4 piston Superlites(1.5 min piston) front and rear with the exact same hubs, snouts, rotor adapters and 14"x1.25 ROTORS. This setup will stop anything. And spares are good to go.

Infact you can get the calipers cheap on e-bay.

Use cast Rotors...Don't buy billet steel rotors they warp very easily.



GREAT Info, thanks! Any problem running that large of a rotor with a 17" wheel. Someone on another forum (cough, cough!) stated I had to run a minimum 18" wheel with a 14" rotor (I suspect for caliper clearance issues), is that correct?

I didn't know that about the billet steel rotors. Great stuff, I LOVE THIS SITE!

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

on a similar subject(sorry to hi-jack)what master cylinder setup would work best with those calipers?

Run two 7/8" with balance bar and adjustable proportioning valve for the rear.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

GREAT Info, thanks! Any problem running that large of a rotor with a 17" wheel. Someone on another forum (cough, cough!) stated I had to run a minimum 18" wheel with a 14" rotor (I suspect for caliper clearance issues), is that correct?

I didn't know that about the billet steel rotors. Great stuff, I LOVE THIS SITE!

The Superlite caliper does have a high profile where the keeper pin holds the pads. most of the stuff with a 14" rotor uses a CNC brand caliper or the DLll Wilwood caliper. When you use a Cone or JMR hub/snout combo the rotor is spaced off the wheel mounting surface almost 4". This puts the rotor almost out of the wheel and gives more clearance for the caliper and puts the rotor closer to fresh air.

[Chris_Wilson]

Re billet steel rotors, I've heard they warp from several people but Chuck Neal (CNC)
machined a set of billet steel rotors for me in 1999. They are still on the truck and
have never warped even after several big races (Baja 500, Baja 1000, Baja 2000).
It's a 6000lb truck with a 6-piston front and 4-piston rear caliper with a hydroboost
system. Maybe the reason mine have not warped is the size or the design. I noticed
that all other billet rotors I've seen have been machined and drilled differently. Also,
mine are smaller to fit in a 15" rim. Not sure what the rotor size is but guessing 12.5".
Brakes are super strong, never fade, and the rotors have almost no wear on them.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

GREAT Info, thanks! Any problem running that large of a rotor with a 17" wheel. Someone on another forum (cough, cough!) stated I had to run a minimum 18" wheel with a 14" rotor (I suspect for caliper clearance issues), is that correct?

I didn't know that about the billet steel rotors. Great stuff, I LOVE THIS SITE!

I just checked out a set of 14" with 17" wheels today. A superlite will fit.

[lump-dog]

I just checked out a set of 14" with 17" wheels today. A superlite will fit.


Great, thanks for going throught all the trouble! In your opinion, do you think the stock 2wd master cylinder will move enough fluid to make four 6 piston calipers work well? A 4wd master has a bigger piston, would that be a viable alternative?

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Great, thanks for going throught all the trouble! In your opinion, do you think the stock 2wd master cylinder will move enough fluid to make four 6 piston calipers work well? A 4wd master has a bigger piston, would that be a viable alternative?

So you are now thinking of the 6 piston deal? Spend the extra $300.00 and go with seperate M/C pistons for front and rear so you can use a Balance bar.

[ASHCRAFT]

Run the wilwoods all around. I have CNC 6 piston calipers and 13" rotors on the front of my f150. Wilwood superlites on the back. Stock 2wd brake booster. My only problem with the CNC 6 pistons on a daily driver is the amount of brake dust they throw. My nice clean 17" APP's are black in a matter of minutes. Dont get me wrong I can stop on a dime. The superlites will do just fine. 13" rotors are all you need.

[partybarge_pilot]

"My only problem with the CNC 6 pistons on a daily driver is the amount of brake dust they throw."

Change pads......

[ASHCRAFT]

Hey whats up Bryan. I thought they only made one type of pad for the 6 piston. But its been 2 years since I bought a set of pads. It would be nice if I didnt have to clean my wheels after everytime I drive. Any info on some different pads would be great.