Shroud

[516racer]

does anyone know where i can get a carbon fiber shroud with dog house for a 1600 motor?

[516racer]

anyone know

[prerunner1499]

I have a type 1 DTM "down the middle" carbon fiberglass shroud that Jake Raby of Massive T4 in Georgia? makes. It uses the type 4 oil cooler and is suposed to lower temps +/- 15 degrees and have all cylinders within 15 degrees. It is dyno tested and pattented tyhough its not cheap. He has many running on type 4 motors and several on type 1's The type 1 kit has been out since about december or so.
his web site ady is http://www.aircooledtechnology.com

[Fourstroker]

Try German Auto in Santa Fe Springs 562-863-1123. The kit sells for about $300 with the center mount alternator stand. Good luck

[516racer]

i ll try them out but i really need is just a stock shroud thats made out of carbon fiber

[blakrapter]

I do not race the type vehicles you guys do, so I am not familiar with this part, however, it sounds like you want the factory shroud, but made from carbon fiber. If you have the factory one, you should be able to pull a mold off of it pretty easily with fiberglass, then lay the carbon on the fiberglass mold. I have done a fair amount of work with carbon for other type race cars and it really isn't any more difficult to work with than fiberglass. It would be helpful to have a vaccum system to vaccum bag the carbon while it sets, but that isn't necessary. The rest is pretty much like fiberglass.

[prerunner1499]

blakraptor has a good idea BUT!
the DIY method of shroud building does not account for the positioning of the internal air deflector vanes which are very critical in the way the internal air pressures of the shroud operate to keep your motor alive, cooling evenly and efficiently. I would not even think of trying to build a shroud myself.
Jake Raby did a test of various shrouds and it was posted in a magazine, he has the name of it. It stated dyne cooling test results of the same motor with many aftermarket shrouds and kits, even the center mount kit. The BEST cooling shroud was an aftermarket mailorder chrome shroud by some company. I have not seen the atricle but it was very informative from what Ive read on the net. Raby knows his S&$T! Bar None! He used that shroud as a benchmark for his DTM type 1 shroud.
Why are you wanting a carbon fiber shroud anyway? Do have an absolute need for one or can you lighten your car another way. Is this just for the bling bling factor?
Before you plunk $ sdoen on a kit or try to make one yo-self please give Jake a look see, go to his site and look up all the info in the DTM. It speaks for itself.
Disclosure: I am in no way affiliated with Raby engineering, aitcooledtechnology or any one else, Im just a desert racer from the wet green state of Oregon of all places.

[blakrapter]

Ah, prerunner, you are right. As mentioned, I am not familiar with the part, so I did not think about the vanes. That would be a true pain to DIY with carbon. As a matter of fact, the only way I know to do that would be to make a disolvable mold so that it can be destroyed once the part is set. Not something a DIYer wants to do...

[516racer]

Trying to make the car lighter and for the look too, yeah i think its going to be hard to find but if anyone does just let me know

[baja_driver]

does anyone know where i can get a carbon fiber shroud with dog house for a 1600 motor?

thinking you might want to keep the metal back there...open wheel and potential love taps not gonna be good..bling bling only good for trailer queens.

[Ryan_P]

I have a Porsche fan shroud on my Type 1. I got it from German Auto, well my engine builder did, and don't remember what I paid. I didn't opt for the carbon fiber, just the plain fiberglass and then have it painted to match the car. It's very light and will provide ample cooling, much more over the stock tin shroud.

-Ryan

[prerunner1499]

You can lighten the car other ways too bro. Take a holle saw to all the interior parts of the body and cut a few holes here and there, like in the heater channels or b pillars. Use a little thinner skid plate? You could loose the lights unless your night racing, take out any un-necesary tools or get that hot little blonde thats 5.2 and 100 lbs to be your co pilot. If you sit and think for a while I'm sure you can come up with 15-20 lbs to take off somehow.
Or you could go running and then think on it, you might loose a few # yourself. LOL