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KitRacer
May 17th, 2005, 21:09
I've got about 6 weekends in it now. Hopefully it will be done for next desert season. After hanging my head and losing motivation after seeing all these rich guy prerunners, I decided to see how cheap I could build a strong fast prerunner. I know I'm only supposed to pick two, so we will see how it goes.

Specs:
2.2 Chevy ECOTEC no turbo for now, 175HP
VW Bus 091 built to the max by POWERBOX_BUILDER
5 lug 2wd toyota spindles with stock lower balljoints, 3/4 upper heims single shear, stock steering arms (I'm open to commetns on this)
Toyota power steering box
Toyota power brake master cylinder
Toyota clutch master cylinder
22 inches of travel front
20 inches of travel rear
5 inches of ground clearance at full bump
Less than $18,000 to complete (last one cost me $18,000 with more expensive stuff)
A-arms are temporary

mexracer10
May 17th, 2005, 21:19
Looks good, i am a firm beliver that fast and fun toys can be biult using abit more brain power, rather than money.

McClintock
May 17th, 2005, 21:55
Since the arms are so long, how much movement is the lower doing? Ive seen yota 4x4 spindles outfitted w/ uniball upper/lower. Cheap, easy, stout and the wheel bearings / brakes are far better then 2x spindles. Looks awesome, nice fab work.

McClintock
May 17th, 2005, 22:00
Hope that helps, hopefully ESB chimes in, he builds some trick toyota stuff. Keep up the work!

http://chaosfab.com/12204/gen2_5_06.jpg

http://chaosfab.com/12204/gen2_7_06.jpg

pjc
May 17th, 2005, 22:12
Specs:
2.2 Chevy ECOTEC no turbo for now, 175HP


Those are very interesting motors. The Super Charged crate motor at $3900 is 205hp and 200 ft lbs of torque. It weighs about 350lbs. A forthcoming 2.4 non-SC version will be 170x170 for HP and torque and is said to weight at 300lbs even.

The 4.3 motor in my car is on it's last bore. An Ecotec may be the next powerplant.

KitRacer
May 17th, 2005, 22:23
The reason I used the parts I did was beacuase I had a wrecked 4xd straight axle and 2wd. I used the steering box from the 4xd and the spindles and pedals from the 2wd. I think after I have seen the way some of those 1450's fly (WFODAN??) these things will be fine. My motor is in the back too, the front will be lite. The funny thing was, at 22 inches of travel, the upper heim limited me. I'm misaligned to 5/8". The new arms I designed in SW use a 1 inch uniball cup with a ball joint "adapter". If these spindles fail in any way, I'll have the option to go to 4wd spindles or full custom. Are the 4wd spindles taller? That could hurt the geometry. I already asked helton what he thought, and he says they last. I hope he is right. I saved so much money not having to by uper and lower uniballs, uniball cups, snouts, calipers, and rotors. Plus, my spares will be interchangeable with all the yotas and rangers.

here is a picture of the my first car, this custom spindle didnt like flat out across the ridge north of holmes camp

McClintock
May 17th, 2005, 22:47
Gotcha, i didnt think the balljoint was limiting w/ such a large arm. Nice work, budget fun, and you cant tell it has a small budget!! Keep the pictures flowing

WannaB-class5
May 19th, 2005, 11:42
I second that...more pics for us who are on a budget!

KitRacer
May 20th, 2005, 07:29
Turbo, $75
I have a few questions about it, that I hope my friend at MechTech motorsports can answer.

It doesnt spin like other turbos I have spun by hand. It feels like it has sealed bearings or something. Its real smooth, But doesnt continue to spin if I give it a whirl. It might need new bearings. Also, It has a wastegate I think on it, is that all I need to control the boost? I thought some turbos had a regulator on the pressure side too.

Brandon_Charley
May 20th, 2005, 11:34
The one on the pressure side is called a blow off valve, it's not meant to control boost, just to relieve it when your off throttle. If you don't have it you can damage your throttle body or too much pressure will cause your turbo to spin backwards(don't know how that happens but its what I've been told). The most important thing about a blow off valve is that they make a cool whooosh sound when you let off the gas.