Carb 351w in 2wd ranger

[singlehanded]

Has anybody on this board ever done one or know of a shop that can help me find and get what is needed. Currently its a 94 ext cab with a c-4 bolted up to the stock 4.0. Thinking right now of just getting a cheap running motor to mock up the whole front and test it, then swap a crate svo in when I have the cash. Biggest issue I see is the pan anyone make a pan for this swap.

[shower]

You are going to need a rear sump pan.

Check our Ranger Power Sports.com and The ranger station.com

Tons of info about the swap you want to do.

[singlehanded]

So not any help there anybody know a shop in orange county that has done this swap or done it themself?

[McClintock]

I have friend that is just finishing up his 351 project. You have to get really creative with the headers, because the clearnace between the headers/steering shaft is a no go. If you can build yourself, or want to pay, for some bitchen headers, the project isnt too harsh. Just new motor mounts, and a rear sump pan and you are set. Ill try and snap some pictures soon if you want. I think a 302 is a better route, but thats just my .02, since ive been down that road.

[singlehanded]

if you could pm me with where he got all his stuff that would be awsome. Was his Stock location? Well I am stuck on the 351w its a much better motor for the buck.

[steveG]

Man, if you're not commited to a 351 yet I'd go 302. A 302 can make plenty of power to move a Ranger. Mustang dragracers are making 600hp with stock 5.0L short blocks. Also, with the aftermarket support available for a 302 Ranger swap, you could buy enough off-the-shelf parts to make it almost bolt in.

[Jerry Zaiden]

Carl Ranezeder's Ranger has a 351 in it. It works very well and has tons of power. The down side is all the custom work you need to do. A C4 is also a little small for the 351.
With a 302 you can buy a "KIT" to install it.
We have a complete exhaust, custom headers, exhaust for sale $1800. We built this in house and used very good parts when we built it, it is also ceramic coated as well. Would cost around $3500-$4000 to build. Will fit a Ford Ranger x-cab. it is a dual exhaust and each header tube is a seperate tube.

[Ryan_P]

No reason to run a 351w in a ranger if you already have the tranny that will back a 302. A good friend of mine has a one-off motor, a 302, and pushes a little over 500hp out of the crank, and def. has enough go juice. However, not everyone has over $20,000 to build a motor, so here's my advice.

Do as the boys over @ Camburg did, get a hold of a 302 crate motor, especially a GT40. They put out sufficient hp numbers, around 350hp and is backed by a warranty from Summit, can't go wrong IMO.

-Ryan

[singlehanded]

Well the main reason I want to go with a 351w is my friends got one in his drag mustang and it works very well, it puts out lots of torque at low rpms and was a brand new crate svo motor. He has never had a problem with it over the last 3-4 years racing it and driving it around. I am only looking for 350 -400 hp and think my c4 will be fine. I know the headers and exhaust will be pricy but really dont mind, I will have a brand new motor, that will be very reliable.

Jerry- what problem will a c4 have, I know you can build one for like 1400hp drag applications that have no problems, what is the weak link or fails.

[BOLT Performance]

260, 289, 302, 351 Windsors will all go in the same hole... Tighter on the headers is all on the 351 and you can build it LESS and get far more torque... 351W all the way...

Jonny Lightning in Placentia does swaps all the time... has a few prerunners sitting out front everyday... and is a EFI/MAF conversion guru... 714.779.2316 - Jon Kinne is his name. Tell him Jeff (The guy that brought in the friend with the Blue Bronco MAF Motor Job) referred you.

Won't help you, but he'll thank me! :)

PS - John Beck (Motor builder guru) is in the same parking lot.

PSS - A C4 isn't going to handle 350 to 400 HP to the wheels for very long.

[Ryan_P]

A C4 isn't going to handle 350 to 400 HP to the wheels for very long.

Not true actually to tell you the truth, a friend of mine is running 500hp and the tranny is the only thing that hasn't given him problems. Motor did at first with getting a right carb and then the compression was a tad low, but tranny has never failed. Actually split a solid spicer in half with the hp and torque, but no tranny problems....

-Ryan

[FullsizeFun]

the 351w has a 1 inch taller deck height than the 289/302 block. this makes it a little taller and a little wider.
You can get plenty of power with a 302. you can buy a 331 or a 347 stroker crate motor with plenty of power for a ranger. the 331 makes a little better torque than the 347, but both are great motors.

[singlehanded]

Ya, I know pretty much everything everyones been posting but the original question was trying to find if someone makes a oilpan and headers that fit or will I have to cut up the crossmember and make custum headers??

Also I think I will go down to johnney lightning and talked to him and see what he has used product wise to make the swap, hes right down the street from my house.

[Jerry Zaiden]

Well the main reason I want to go with a 351w is my friends got one in his drag mustang and it works very well, it puts out lots of torque at low rpms and was a brand new crate svo motor. He has never had a problem with it over the last 3-4 years racing it and driving it around. I am only looking for 350 -400 hp and think my c4 will be fine. I know the headers and exhaust will be pricy but really dont mind, I will have a brand new motor, that will be very reliable.

Jerry- what problem will a c4 have, I know you can build one for like 1400hp drag applications that have no problems, what is the weak link or fails.


Drag racing and off-road use are two different worlds. First in a off-road application you will use the 1st and 2nd gears for braking. This is when you use the trany to slow you down to set up the truck in turns etc. This puts a ton of stress on the input shaft, clutches, internal drumms etc. The c-6 or T400 uses an input shaft that makes a c-4 input shaft look like a toothpick.
I have found that when you do it do it right the first time. A 351 will have way more torque than a 302 and this will tear apart the c-4 if you plan on really driving it.
A built c-4 from Steve Cullhane is around $1800 and a well built C-6 or T-400 is around $3200. The C-6 is very strong for this aplication but the T-400 will just about be bulletproof!
Talk to Steve Cullhane and use what he recomends.

[singlehanded]

Thanks, jerry Ill give steve a call and see what he thinks. Maybe Ill sell my c-4 and upgrade to the t-400 then. It will definetly be making lots of low end torque, my friends motor makes 400 ft/lbs at 2000 rpms. Well looking right now at a svo crate with afr heads and a holley carb. Ya and its gonna really be driven, not gonna be street legal so gonna push it to its limits right.