JMR tube bender

[Jeff_B]

Anyone have experience with this bender? Likes / dislikes?

[Jkrell]

i have built a few cages with one...I had to massage the dies a little bit to keep them from gouging the tubes on spring back but besides that i have been nothing but happy with it. The thickest I bent with it was 1.75 .120 and it actually sounded like the pump was straining some but Jim told me it will do up to .188 wall 1.5 no problem....Overall i think its one of the best made, and well thought out benders on the market. Definately a lil pricey compared to the others out there but a top quality tool no doubt.

His new notcher is really cool also, I havent had a chance to use it but the concept of it seems to be better than the standard notchers out there.

jk

[Jeff_B]

What do you mean by massage the dies?

This will be my first tube bender and I want to make sure I buy the right one the first time! What do you think about the Pro-Tools model? What other benders should I consider?

Thanks for the help!

[DEZFAN]

Where can I find information on the new JMR notcher?

[Scott_F]

I have also been searching and don't want to buy a kinker or clunker.

This one looks like a lot of bend for the buck.

http://www.toolsplus1.com/eztube.htm

[DEZFAN]

Scott F, I wouldn't buy the "EZ tube bender" . For the same price a JD2 or pro tools would be a better investment.

[Scott_F]

Why? What makes the JD2 or Pro-tools a better choice?

[DEZFAN]

The EZ has aluminum dies that only bend 90 degrees. JD and pro have steel that bend 180. My buddy has an EZ, I tried to bend 1 3/4 DOM .180 wall on it and it gouged the dies. I then tried to bend it on a manual JD and it only slightly bent the main pin after 10 bends. Obviously the material was to heavy for both benders but I'd rather replace a pin than a die. The EZ does come with the air pump, but what's the point if it can't bend heavy stuff?

[roscoe]

I have a jmr bender for about a year and a half i think it works the best of all the benders that i have seen,no problems, just about ready to buy a jmr degree ring and a notcher.

[Scott_F]

OK, I'm off the EZ bender, and I'm onto another one. I just talked to Bryan at Pro-Tools, and he told me about the bender plans at www.gottrikes.com that uses Pro-Tools 105 dies. Bryan said that they built and tested the bender, and it works fine with no die problems. I think I am going to build this bender. Now if only I could buy or borrow a 1.5" 105 die here in SoCal. Does anyone know where I can find these? Bryan said they will not be shipping them until mid January.

[dhardesty]

I have been shopping for a bender for about a year. Where can I find information on the JMR Bender? thanks for the imput!

[Jkrell]

regarding messaging (sp?) the dies....when new they wanted to gouge the tube a little when the bender was releasing...I just rounded the edge of the die and no problems.. i believe McKenzies is a distributor for the JDM bender and Notcher.

Regarding the Pro-tools bender. I've seen one in person and they appear to be of sufficient quality to serve a hobby shop or small race shop well. I think the quality of the JMR bender is superior but the fact that you can buy the pro tools bender without the pump and cylinder make it a bonus for the new fabricator. I used the JMR bender for a porsche shop I have done various work for and now that i am in the market to buy a bender for my garage i think I am going to go with the pro tools model simply because its cheaper and it will get the job done for a cage every now and then. If you can afford it go for the JMR if you want a good entry level go with the JD2 or protools.

jk

[roscoe]

i think jmr has a manual bender out now that is built to last, and priced for the budget builder. call them at 805 584 0191

[Jkrell]

i'll look into it - nothing about it on their website.

[phatmanforya]

I've also been looking for a tube bender and have decided on either a Pro Tools 105 Heavy Duty or a JD2.

The Pro Tools cost $683.00 and i comes with the bender, the stand, the degree stop ring, the handle, and a die set ( for 110 degree bends).

The JD2 will cost 815 with the bender, the stand, the degree ring (but it dosen't say if it has a stop on it), and a die (for 180 degree bends, I think) , it does not come with the handel and i don't think they sell one, this may not be that big of a deal as i could probably use some square tubing

I will be mostly using it for a project car tube chassis , cage for a drag car, and maybe some suspension.

That being said, which one should i get? Is there a reason one is better than the other?

[mattb]

We always used to use a JD2. This was 10 years ago, and it worked good then. I'm sure it would be good for you. We never got the degree ring, we just eye balled it all. True engineering. Whichever you get, always keep you tubing well lubricated... Did I type that? Ha.

[Bryan_D]

Whats the difference between the JD bender models? What is the cost of the hydraulic upgrade on like a JD2 after the fact?

[ChuckH]

Ok i think i learned something here

1st. you massage the die

2nd. then you lube up your pipe

3rd. then apply pressure and eye it up for a perfect bend to finish it off

[JONES PERFORMANCE]

heres another place to get fab tools

http://www.tricktools.com

[motoxscott]

I have the JD2 bender and have been very happy with it. I've also upgraded it with a Enerpac air/hydro setup. I think if I were to buy one again in that price range I think I would get the ProTools. It's a copy of the JD2 but it looks like they put a little more time into it. It seems more finished.

For all you chassis builders and fab shops who are looking for something better, we carry LeDucs hydro bender that uses hossfield dies. We have a brand new one in stock :) This is the same model we use for most of our bending.

- Scott @ Camburg Engineering

http://www.camburg.com/images/tools/TubeBender.jpg

[phatmanforya]

It looked, and sounded, better built to me too, so I'll get the pro tools 105 heavy duty.

Another question, is there a minimum center line radius that most race sanctions (particularly SCORE and NHRA) require for the main hoops I don't want to get too small of a die and spend a couple hundred more for a new one. If you need to know, I plan on using 1 ½ OD, .095 wall for most of my projects.

The formulas for safe cage building would also be a big help.

Thanks

P.S. Didn't mean to jack the thread, just thought it fit good here

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

I have a Pro tools Bender. It is a mother of an Fer to bend anything over 1.25. 1.20. After I bought my pro tools bender my buddy one upped me and got a JMR. His works awesome! Whenever I bend up suff over 1.00 I use his bender now. My pro tools bender looks nice in the garage. But after using that JMR I might as well hook a rope to it, put in my ski boat and use it as an anchor. The other day I got a Notcher from JMR. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! like butter! no grinding at all! A perfect fit evertime. I'm not the best TIG welder, but this notcher makes me look like an F'n PRO! After you notch your tube and put it in place, I swear you cant slide a piece of paper through any gap. The fit is so nice it is almost a shame to weld over it. The notcher works as a good barter system with my buddy. I can use his bender if I let him use my prized notcher. LOL

JMR notcher = roll cage made easy!

[91yotaprerunner]

i agree, i love my JMR notcher, it was worth every penny of 500 bucks

[motoxscott]

Can you guys post some pics of the JMR notcher ??

- Scott

[roscoe]

i think there is a pic of it in the pic section of the offroad expo 2004

[91yotaprerunner]

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11985&page=2


there is a pic of it there

[TimHayosh]

All this excitment is over a hole-saw notcher? If the tube clamp and the hole saw shaft are aligned, how could the quality of the notch be any better?

Granted, it looks like the one pictured in the link above could do some wicked angles, but the quality of the notch would still be the same as any other hole saw-based notcher, wouldn't it?

BTW: I have nothing against hole saw notchers! In fact, that's all I have ever used. But, when I switched from a worn-out "Joint Jigger" to a new Pro Tools hole saw unit, the only thing that changed was the accuracy of the notch (more centered on the tube), the quality of the notch itself was no different.

Could anyone (FlyHiFlyLo, 91Yota, etc) describe what it is about the JMR unit that makes its' notch so superior to any other decent-quality notcher?

[91yotaprerunner]

i cant say that it is superior to the pro tools as i have never used one or seen one used, but what i like is that the shaft is huge, like maybe 1.25 in in diameter( just off the top of my head guess), it has a dual needle bearing inside, so the bearings will have a good life, it notches pretty much any angle, real easy to set the angle with. i have just found it very easy to use.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

It does not FLEX! and you can do off-set holes. I have had the same milwalkee blade in mine and haven's broke a tooth yet. You need to see one work and you will be sold like I was. It's not your daddy's hole saw cutter anymore. belt sanders can't through cut tubes either.

[TimHayosh]

Thanks for the response guys! There doesn't sound like there is a vast difference between these units.

BTW: Holesaw longevity is directly related to the quality of the holesaw, rotational speed, pressure, material being cut, and the use of a cooling/cutting fluid. The notching tool itself will have no effect on how long your hole saw lasts (given that the alignment is reasonable).

FWIW: my "'Ol Joint Jigger" most definitely flexed. The ProTools does not. The ProTools will also cut off-set.

Thanks for taking the time to share your observations!

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Well from my experience Fixturing, overall tool Quality and Rigidity directly affects tool life. Like I said I'm still on my first hole saw after at least 100 cuts. My buddies pro tool setup is now unused because he is always at home depot buying more blades. Every 10 or so cuts with my buddies notcher he begins to loose teeth then the notch becomes under sized. And is spending 9 bucks on a new blade. And the inconvenience of having to purchase them. By the time I have used the life of my notcher my buddy will have twice as much in his just in blades.
The Pro tools deal is made of 3/16" mild steel at the main support structure. Mine is ½” billet 4130 and that is the foundation JMR starts with. I’m not trying to be a a-hole or anything but I’m really happy with my JMR setup and so is my buddy with his bender. I have had experience with both and I am sharing my findings. We are all in the same boat wanting to spend our hard earned money the right way. In both cases the JMR stuff is well worth the extra cha-ching as most tools are.

I think Dave G could chime in. I have read many of his posts. I think Dave G will verify how much rigidity plays a factor in tool life.

Scott

[partybarge_pilot]

Rigidity is a large factor in tool life. I have one of the older pro-tools notchers (3/8) the newer oners are 1/2. I welded a couple of stiffening ribs on the back side of mine and solved the flex problem. It also has needle bearings on the shaft.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

The Pro tools deal is made of 3/16" mild steel at the main support structure. Mine is ½” billet 4130 and that is the foundation JMR starts with. Scott

Correction: I went out and measured mine. It is 3/4" thick billet not 1/2 inch. JMR is the way to go. I had seen one of their new notcher stands yesterday. Pretty sweet for under a $100.00 it mounts with "red heads" right to the floor and has a rack for all the different size blades. Next on my list.

[91yotaprerunner]

where did u see the stand at???

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Me and my buddy went to JMR to pick up some 2" dies for his bender and Jim showed the stand to me. I swear his shop is the biggest shop I have ever seen, must be 50000sq ft. He has every type of off road car in there. He is building trophy trucks, pro-4s Pro-2s and pre runners all over the place. I seen that one kids size class 1 car Klaus put on the prototype board. That dude is an animal. He must have 10 Haas CNC machines and every tool known to mankind. I was drewling. I think he keeps a low key operation and I got the vibe he wants you to use his distributors for the most part. I was honored to be allowed in his shop.

[partybarge_pilot]

"I think he keeps a low key operation and I got the vibe he wants you to use his distributors for the most part."

Or he's hiding from past customers......

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

"I think he keeps a low key operation and I got the vibe he wants you to use his distributors for the most part."

Or he's hiding from past customers......



Like you?

[- Seven]

Does anyone know where I can find info on the JMR notcher and Bender. I saw the pic of the notcher earlier in the thread but I cant find any other info or pics anywhere else on the net. The only thing that comes up on Google are race results with JMR listed as a sponsor.

Is there a website? or a distrubutor site with info?

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

I couldn't find it either but I just looked every where for my notcher instructions and it is JMRMFG.com.

His site blows monkey nuts. He needs to do something about it bad.

[class7s]

I agree that his website needs some serious help. I hope his product is better than his customer service. I emailed him last week for some info and to find out who sells his product in the Long Beach area. I have yet to get a reply. I tried calling and the phone just rang and rang with no one answering

[- Seven]

Thanks for the info. Now I at least know what the bender looks like!

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Thanks for the info. Now I at least know what the bender looks like!


No prob dawg!

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

I couldn't find it either but I just looked every where for my notcher instructions and it is JMRMFG.com.

His site blows monkey nuts. He needs to do something about it bad.


They must have seen our comments because the site is updated. Looks like he just added some dimple dies. Those look real nice. full set all the way up to 2" for 4 bills. I guess I will have to get a 100.00 dollar harbor freght press first but eventually I will get those too. Dimple die holes are so bitchen! www.jmrmfg.com

[GOAT1]

Looks like they just raised the prices on the bender too.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Check this out. I cracked my Protools 1.5" die. Then tried my buddys JMR 1.5 die fit perfectly and for some reason it seemed to work a little better. After further review on my protools die. The damn center pin hole was crooked. I have a cracked 1.5" protools die you can barrow. My buddy just talks all kinds of crap now. (until he asks to barrow my notcher again) LOL

[NicksTrix]

who is this JMR? never heard of them. products look well made.

[BOLT Performance]

JMR, JD and Protools are all virtually the SAME 2" bender. JMR just makes a better die. However, his dies cost more individually and he does not make square tube dies. His package price for his bender with THREE dies is CHEAPER than the same kit from ProTools or JD Benders and theirs does not have his nice roll around work cart.

If you wanna make FAST bends with a high performance pump (Full Ram extension in 9 seconds, return in 8 seconds) then JMR is the BEST priced kit.

If you are NOT going to buy the high performance hydraulic system JD and ProTools are far less money.

Side Note: Jim at JMR says his dies are Finished and don't need massaging although someone in this thread said they did need some work. ProTools and JD Benders for SURE need dies massaged before use to avoid marking your tubes.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

JMR, JD and Protools are all virtually the SAME 2" bender.

I have the Pro tools and they are not the same . my buddies JMR has way better pivot points, bushings and pins. Like I said before my pro tools is now a relic. (but only because I still have access to my buddies JMR) If I had to use my pro tools I would, but not if don't I have to.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

who is this JMR? never heard of them. products look well made.


From what I can tell he used to race Trophy truck several years back. I heard he use to also fab for Walker and Jim Smith

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

who is this JMR? never heard of them. products look well made.


I think it stands for Jim McKenzie Racing. From what I can tell he used to race Trophy truck several years back (he still has the old TT at his shop). I also heard he use to fab for Walker, Robby and Jim Smith

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

who is this JMR? never heard of them. products look well made.


I think it stands for Jim McKenzie Racing. From what I can tell he used to race Trophy truck several years back (he still has the old TT at his shop). He has like 6 or 7 new big ass HAAS CNC machines in his shop. I also heard he use to fab for Walker, Robby and Jim Smith.

[NicksTrix]

ok, i know who he is now. sounds like he's done well for himself. machines aren't hard to get, you just need to have some credit and make the payments. looks like he's putting them to use. good for him.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

I was over at JMR today to pick up some 1" dies for my bender. He is building a wicked ass Trophy truck and two pro 4s. Who are they for? anybody here? He said he can't say who ordered them.

BTW... I seen these huge billet aluminum belt sanders on his mills. (that's what he said they were) Look kind of like Bur Kings but way fancier. Or some crazy billet lower control arms.(However, he might have been pulling my leg.)

[partybarge_pilot]

The TT is the one he started for Mike Jacobson that has been sitting for about 2 yr's. After the lawsuit was finished it was decided to leave the crooked piece of ****e on the table and start with something a little straiter from a more quality shop.

[WoodyW]

(ouch!)......

[GOAT1]

I now own a JMR and it is a niece piece of equipment. I have one complaint, but I have not talked to JMR about it yet to see what they can do. On the 1.25" die, the radial holes in the die do not align with the holes in the bender arm, not allowing the pin to fit through, their fix was to supply you with a smaller OD pin. When starting the bend in the first hole, the slop in the pin causes the bender arm to drive the die on the pin through the die that holds the strap around the tube and not the pin through the bender arm. This has put a dent on the side of the bender arm from pushing that pin (not a big deal) but more importantly it broke the block off that is welded to the die that holds the strap and pin and clamp screw.

Another note, I also had to massage some of the dies to prevent it from digging into the tube on spring back. But overall I am very impressed with this bender, it is far superior than similar benders on the market.

[PBR]

The TT is the one he started for Mike Jacobson that has been sitting for about 2 yr's. After the lawsuit was finished it was decided to leave the crooked piece of ****e on the table and start with something a little straiter from a more quality shop.

i have been watching this thread for a while and it is about time someone gave some background on jim mckenzie.

this is first hand information not rumors... he said he made robby's and jim smiths rearends and spindles among other custom parts on the trophy trucks... i call bull$hit!!! he may make a good bender but before you give him any money be very cautious. i went to school with jim, worked on his class 1 car back in the day and even had him build one of my prerunners... since then jim has burned many people for large amounts of money or parts including my brother, a good friend of mine, cory witherall(short coarse racer) and i don't know what happend first hand with mike jacobson but there was a big law suit... all i am saying is that be careful when doing business with him... you've been warned. this is not a personal attack on jim mckenzie just the facts of what he has done to some good people.

[partybarge_pilot]

And the O'niels to the list too. I do know what happened with Jakobson, It wasn't pretty. Granted there are always two sides to any story, I'm just going on the fact that we have had to replace/reweld everything the guy did.

The "TT" spindles lasted less than 20 min. on the truck before they bent. Quality!

[Jkrell]

i have been watching this thread for a while and it is about time someone gave some background on jim mckenzie.

this is first hand information not rumors... he said he made robby's and jim smiths rearends and spindles among other custom parts on the trophy trucks... i call bull$hit!!! he may make a good bender but before you give him any money be very cautious. i went to school with jim, worked on his class 1 car back in the day and even had him build one of my prerunners... since then jim has burned many people for large amounts of money or parts including my brother, a good friend of mine, cory witherall(short coarse racer) and i don't know what happend first hand with mike jacobson but there was a big law suit... all i am saying is that be careful when doing business with him... you've been warned. this is not a personal attack on jim mckenzie just the facts of what he has done to some good people.

Well i have no personal problem with Jim, I have used his bender and liked it and the one conversation i have had with him was positive. However, to confirm Ollie's statement -- The spindles and rear end, at least on the two recent trucks, were built at Team Gordon, Anaheim, with all machined parts coming from Robby's North Carolina shop.

jk

[FullsizeFun]

anyone have pics of the JMR manual bender? there isnt any on the website. It is the one with the rack and pinion drive on it right?

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Wow! Seems as though One or two people are a bit bent. All I know is that guy has been totally cool with me. And I have his bender and his notcher. Both very nice stuff. So just because someone says something nasty I guess The Trophy truck isn't "Wicked Ass"? It sure looked Wicked Ass to me. And I can wait to see it done.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

anyone have pics of the JMR manual bender? there isnt any on the website. It is the one with the rack and pinion drive on it right?

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12942

[PBR]

Wow! Seems as though One or two people are a bit bent. All I know is that guy has been totally cool with me. And I have his bender and his notcher. Both very nice stuff. So just because someone says something nasty I guess The Trophy truck isn't "Wicked Ass"? It sure looked Wicked Ass to me. And I can wait to see it done.

i guarantee you there are more than one or two people "bent" at him.

[partybarge_pilot]

Trust Me, if you had gone through what We have gone through and lost the amount of money that We have you would be a little bent to. I wish you the best of luck with your tools, I just don't want to see anyone else get scammed by this guy.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Trust Me, if you had gone through what We have gone through and lost the amount of money that We have you would be a little bent to. I wish you the best of luck with your tools, I just don't want to see anyone else get scammed by this guy.

Point taken I will keep my eyes wide open. What class do you race?

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Being the busy body that I can be, I did look for details on that lawsuit. I couldn't find anything. But, is this the same Mike Jacobson that settled a multi-million dollar police brutality suit while he was driving drunk several years back? Or is it a different Mike Jacobson?

[partybarge_pilot]

Different one. TT#10 Raced a 5 car forever.

[Aflac]

Mckenzies is a dealer of JMR tools and you don't have to deal with jim if it makes it any safer

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

Ollie, I spoke to Jim about all this drama yesterday when I went to pick up my bender dies.

He said what he did to Ivan's truck 20 years ago when he was 17 was "immature, regrettable and unacceptable" he seemed truly remorseful.

As for Mike Jacobson...He told me all about "that trust fund baby". He told me all about the many other top fab shops he screwed over and never paid/stop payment on checks. He even went into detail about the whole circumstances of the lawsuit Mike lost against Jim's wife (Pretty f'n lowdown). And the lawsuit against him (he lost) Apparently a jury decided it was Jim who was entitled to the truck and that is why he has it today. The only money lost is attorney fees for a frivolous lawsuits (like against somebody’s wife).

Party barge...Jim also wanted to know how you could determine that the trophy truck was a bent piece when you have never even been in his shop or seen the truck. And as for the bent spindles he figured that genius people like you would have known to heat-treat your spindles when you are done with fab. Maybe if Mike wouldn't have picked the truck up before it was completed and paid for it with a bunk check things like heat treating would have been taken care of.

If anybody really needs any more info Jim said he is more than willing to make the court transcript/docs available to anyone. He said that could paint a clear picture as to what Mike Jacobson is really all about.

As for Jim making no parts for other teams... I've been in Jim's shop many times. It is 30,000+sq ft. and there is always tons of class 1, short course and TT parts being manufactured but he only has 2 trophy trucks so the parts have to be going somewhere. Right?

I don't think Jim has a problem with the O’Neil’s because Jimmy O’Neil Jr. works for JMR!

Hope this clear up any problems. I believed everything Jim said because it all made since. Like someone said earlier there is two sides to every story.

[Rprice]

When i was in the shop I wasnt allowed to even look in the general area of the TT and short course truck lol. The machinest is a nice guy and they make some bitchen stuff. I would like to get one if his benders in the near future, does he sell to the public or through Mckenzies?

[klaus]

I have seen JMR stuff at IMS in Irvine

[Rprice]

That reminds me i have seen his bender at IMS in sun valley. I guess my question was more for FlyHiFlyLo7. thanks.

[partybarge_pilot]

Like I said, 2 sides to every story.

1. Yes I have been to the shop and seen the chassis.

2. Per Jim, "they (the spindles) don't need heat treat" 2003 off-road expo. Also, they were machined to size. If you want to heat treat you need to leave .005-.010 for final machining post heat treat.

3. If you need an example of his fabulous fab work, come buy at the 500 and bring your tape measure. You don't really need it though, it's bad enough to eyeball.

4. The only other fab shop We have a problem with is Troy Johnson. Also a good friend of Jims (unknown to us at the time the truck was brought to his shop).

5. The only other 2 fab shops to do work on the truck, RPS and JD Fab did quality timely work and were paid accordingly.

6. Trust fund kid? That describes a lot of people in racing. At least he's not blowing it on drugs.

[PBR]

i know this is a little wierd but my brother in not a member of rdc... i know it's hard to believe!!! but he reads some of the posts and i told him about this one and he has been following it... this is all coming from him:


send this on my behalf:

Hey FlyHiFlyLo7 why are you defending Jim McKenzie? To justify the purchase of your bender, notcher or anything else you may have bought from him? I knew Jim back in Jr. High (what do you want to know about him?) and since that time he screwed over at least 6 different people including myself. These are the only one's that I personally know of but I'm sure there are more. Jim is a pathological liar and a used car salesmen.....he tells you what he thinks you want to hear....and obviously what he told you worked! He stole parts from me and kept my truck for ransom!!! I don't care how old he was when he stole from me but a thief is a thief! Don't you see a pattern here? It is just a matter of time before he takes advantage of someone else! How much evidence of this guy being shady do you need????? Maybe you will get ripped off and then you will understand?

Do you know Mike Jakobsen? Why are you calling him a "trust fund baby"? Is that what Jim told you he is? Did you ask him his side of the lawsuit? Know your facts!!!!!!

I have a question for you.....have you ever seen any of these Class 1's or Trophy Trucks that Jim has "built" race? Who drives them? What are their finishing records?

Again, I am just not sure why you are defending this guy??????

Ivan Penchansky

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

"1. Yes I have been to the shop and seen the chassis."

Well if you had seen it then you know it was only the A-arm bulkhead and floor Bulkhead tacked together on the surface plate up till 2 months ago. And know for sure that it's not a bent POS because all the plate metal was cnc machined and just tacked together.

"3. If you need an example of his fabulous fab work, come buy at the 500 and bring your tape measure. You don't really need it though, it's bad enough to eyeball."

Jim said "Mikes truck is an old dilapidated Walker Evens class 8 ex-Brian Stewart truck from 1991 that has been rolled and wasted at high speed a million times due to Mike's spectacular driving a few times." "It's been beat on since 1991 That’s is why it is all twisted."

"5. The only other 2 fab shops to do work on the truck, RPS and JD Fab did quality timely work and were paid accordingly."

Do other fab shops also include Snotty, Fodrill, Kurt, etc where mike has a top rep?


Maybe we should start a new thread that attacks other people in this industry. I say we should call it:

I'm jealous of Jim McKenzie, my panties are in a wad and I live Vicariously through a Trust fund Baby.

Whatever, it is what it is. :P

My JMR bender and notcher are bad to the bone and that is what this thread is all about.

[klaus]

The thread is called JMR tube bender... lets stick to the subject.

No more good shop, bad shop posts please. Call or email each other if needed to chat about shop referrals.

[FlyHiFlyLo7]

The thread is called JMR tube bender... lets stick to the subject.

No more good shop, bad shop posts please. Call or email each other if needed to chat about shop referrals.


10-4 Big Dawg!